For those that need a Bernie song fix they can go to Berniesongs.com and choose from previosly mentioned songs to tide you over.

I didn't think a campaign song was appropriate for the anniversary of 9/11, so I posted something else.

I have an idea. Let's replace "Take me out to the Ballgame" 7-the inning stretch with a Christian theocratic hymn.

That is a really great idea. Might as well have a fucking 7th Inning prayer, which it really is any time it is sung.

It is a horrible song.

I have an idea, let's celebrate 9-11 by singing about a theocracy. Or, let's not.

Sorry.

DU sucks more every day anyway.

Plus, it really isn't a very good song for the 9-11 anniversary, given religious attacks on the USA and all that. (Which is precisely why the GOP has adopted it as their anthem and why 7th inning stretches suck these days.)

chose a patriotic song instead.

Or taken this some way other than the way you did.

Or gotten that every OP on a message board may not be one you would choose yourself. It's not as though I sent the Jehevoh's Witnesses to your door to try to convert you. Or even that I want to convert anyone.

You also could have written a less rude post. It's not the religious debate forum.

Or not found it necessary to post a second scolding of me in what is supposed to be a friendly group.

So, guess what?

And I proudly sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" over the theocrats during 7th inning stretches.

I stand by my posts.

I am sorry about that. But I feel very strongly about theocracy and the GOP using that insidious song to promote it.

Regardless. My best to you.

I am an adult, and as an adult I presume folks can have adult conversations even when they disagree.

I still think it is a horrible song which has been co-opted by the theocratic branch of the GOP, which is all the more reason to not like it.

My best to you.

Your idea of :adult conversation in a friendly group about an innocous OP that was in no way aimed at you or intended to harm anyone;

A horrible song! Abso-fucking-lutely horrible.

I have an idea. Let's replace "Take me out to the Ballgame" 7-the inning stretch with a Christian theocratic hymn.

That is a really great idea. Might as well have a fucking 7th Inning prayer, which it really is any time it is sung.

It is a horrible song.

I have an idea, let's celebrate 9-11 by singing about a theocracy. Or, let's not.

And yes, I confess that I am a bit passionate about separation of church and state. I mean, they sing that horrible song during 7th inning stretches! All over the country! Like we need more church at the ballpark?

Thank you for your response. Again, I have no gripe with you personally. But that song should be put in its current political context.

I wish you well.

I actually used to enjoy posting daily to support Sanders and give some team spirit in the am, would have been utterly inappropriate today.

I, too, am passionate about separate of church and state, ffs. I just have never had a need to be a total pisant child about it.

BTW, maybe you should stick to worrying about separation of church and state in Canada. Because, if you think posting a patriotic song on 911 on a message board turns the US into a theocracy or has diddly at all to do with separation of church and state in the US, you don't know jack.

BTW, you are now on ignore, but apparently your replies are going to show up in my My Posts lists for a bit, sad to say.

Michigan! Not Canada!

My best to you.

what results in a theocracy. Hint: It has nothing to do with my OP. Also get a grip on what intolerance is. Hint: it's a condition NOT confined solely to religious people .

And, again, this is not a religion debate forum.

That is why 7th inning stretches started playing it ONLY AFTER 9/11. Like a Muslim attack wasn't enough. We need more religion to make it better. At the fucking baseball church... Er eh! I mean park.

I really hate what that song has become. Plus, it really isn't that good of a song.

religion. Most people don't feel such songs threaten their life view, especially when all they have to do to avoid them is go to another thread. Enough with the 7th inning stretch too. It has has less than zero to do with either my OP or with separation of church and state. If it bothers you so fucking much, don't go to ballgames or complain to the park owner.

I really hate what that song has become.

No personal offense intended.

I will leave my surliness and this apology up.

Forgive me.

But, still on ignore.

So I will still read what you post.

As always.


(And GBA still sucks. )

But I do not see disagreement as nasty.

Yes, I use colorful language, but that is not, in itself, nasty. Passion is not nasty.

The way God Bless America is being used politically by the GOP? Now that's pretty much the definition of nasty. Which is my whole point here.

You obviously disagree and that's okay. Different strokes.

anyone on the defensive - and I'm not referring to the profanity either. I'm from NJ and "Fuck" is our state word. You could have responded with something like, "I'd have gone with a different song," and then suggested another tune. One alternative, just off the top of my head, would be "This Land is Your Land." It's patriotic without being jingoistic and fits well with the theme of Bernie's campaign.

I appreciate your apology and didn't see the one you made to merrily directly until after I posted.

However, I do have some passions. Like not liking the theocratic wing of the GOP, which as much as uses that horrible song as their national anthem. And yes, my metric is that it was never, ever sung in a baseball park until after 9/11! And then, for some strange reason, it was sung everywhere during the 7th inning stretch. Beer, Red Hots, peanuts, baseball, Take Me Out to the Ball Game, God Bless America. One of these just does not belong with the others. And we're supposed to STAND, too? Maybe the announcer should ask everybody to bow their heads and fold their hands as well? At the fucking baseball park! Like one isn't patriotic enough if one doesn't sing loud enough. Or religious enough.

Maybe we need more church everywhere. Especially in county clerk offices in addition to the baseball parks. And on 9/11, I might add. We need more religion there, too. Wait a minute... Maybe not.

Religion and politics is always a toxic mix. Even if one likes that song.

GOP's theocratic nonsense and I share your frustration over the post 9/11 jingoism. I also know that merrily didn't share the song with that intent. It is annoying. When my husband makes me go to baseball games I always try to plan a visit to the concession stand for the 7th inning stretch.

Which is why I apologized to merrily.

But I want folks to know why I object to that song nonetheless.

I am with you on this, but I'd stand next to merrily, too. Only I would not sing that song with her. (Respectfully.)

God Bless America: horrible hallmark of american theocracy.

Perhaps instead we should celebrate her 1931 hit: 'That year, she performed the controversial top-twenty song of 1931, "That's Why Darkies Were Born"' - wikipedia, Kate Smith.

Sorry I find this op awful. Consider undoing it.

But some have expressed their contrary opinion, which I hope you take constructively.

But, don't delete if you do not want to. You have a voice here, too. And even if I disagree I will defend your right to express it. Especially in matters like music.


But perspective and framing matters, which was my point.

Perspective was you went ballistic instead of trashing the thread and simply moving on to something else or nicely suggesting a substitute song or something similar. And you still don't seem to be able to move on. And you want to lecture me on perspective?

Oh, and you had no point, only a tantrum.

Sorry I saw your fourth post on this non-issue before I got to put you on ignore. Please give me a few seconds this time before you post again. Thanks.

I have no problem with you, just that song. Ironically, Irving Berlin was Jewish.

Seems to matter to you a lot, but is irrelevant to everyone else. I'm seeing a pattern.