Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

The_Commonist

(2,518 posts)
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 12:49 PM Sep 2015

I have an idea that I believe can completely ensure a Sanders victory...

...not just for the primaries, but also for the general election.

And it's so simple, I can't believe I haven't seen anyone else propose this.
I think the senator could probably win the general election with 60 percent of the popular vote if he followed this very simple strategy. It might be too early for him to pull this one out, but hopefully this will somehow trickle down to his campaign, and he can take some time to consider this idea. Which will make him win, and easily.

A single term.

I believe that if Senator Sanders "made a pledge" to only serve a single term, he would win.
Small donors now, he won't be beholden to the big money, and he won't need to spend his first four years in office worrying about running for re-election. That's how you get shit done!

He can tell the public "Let's try this. If you don't like it, you can go back to the status quo in 2020."
He can say "I may be the oldest person elected president, but I won't have to worry about the stress of running for re-election."

The only president I know of who made (and kept) a single term pledge, was James K. Polk. That guy GOT SHIT DONE! (it was NOT all good)

I know that there are many Independents, and even some Republicans who would give the guy a chance if he promised to only serve one term. A lot of people, even some pretty conservative people would say "what the hell? Things are so so screwed up, let's give this guy four years to try to turn it around!"

A single term pledge.

Senator Sanders, if you can hear me, give this some thought. You would win by a landslide if you did this...

15 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
I have an idea that I believe can completely ensure a Sanders victory... (Original Post) The_Commonist Sep 2015 OP
Every president is signed up for a single term. If we don't like the results we vote him out. I Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #1
I don't want him to make that pledge. stillwaiting Sep 2015 #2
Exactly jfern Sep 2015 #12
Hell no. Daemonaquila Sep 2015 #3
Agree completely n/t MissDeeds Sep 2015 #7
I think the only reason for him to do this is if he gets Warren on as VP for his ticket... cascadiance Sep 2015 #4
Interesting thought. nt Snotcicles Sep 2015 #5
I think that what he's trying to start is longer than a four year project... cascadiance Sep 2015 #8
My dad always said that it took the four terms for FDR to jwirr Sep 2015 #10
I think that there are many others other than Warren - swilton Sep 2015 #14
I think he does need a strong populist progressive VP... cascadiance Sep 2015 #15
I don't think it would fly. RoccoR5955 Sep 2015 #6
I am not sure how I feel about this. It could have unintended consequences. merrily Sep 2015 #9
Why does this sound familiar? Was it shopped in GD-P last month? HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #11
NO. K&R nt TBF Sep 2015 #13

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
1. Every president is signed up for a single term. If we don't like the results we vote him out. I
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 12:55 PM
Sep 2015

don't think I understand the advantage of declaring a single term intention. Wouldn't that make him a lame duck after two-ish years?

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
2. I don't want him to make that pledge.
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 12:57 PM
Sep 2015

If he gets elected and is in great health leading up to a 2nd term then we need him to serve a 2nd term. If he's not feeling healthy enough to serve a 2nd term I don't believe he would.

I'm sure that he would/will select a fantastic V.P. candidate if anything happened to him that would make a great President.

His job and obligation would be to choose a strong V.P. in case anything happens to him (as all Presidents must do). He won't be choosing Sarah Palin that's for sure.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
12. Exactly
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:34 AM
Sep 2015

He can make the determination June 2019 or so whether he'll have the energy and health for another 4 years.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
3. Hell no.
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 01:09 PM
Sep 2015

"I'm announcing that I intend to be a lame duck if elected. Please sharpen your swords, I'll be putting my neck on the block now."

No.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
4. I think the only reason for him to do this is if he gets Warren on as VP for his ticket...
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 01:12 PM
Sep 2015

... and that way he can say that so many women who are looking heavily towards Hillary Clinton as a means to have a woman in the White House as a higher priority than her policies, will perhaps see that he's committed to trying to get that to happen as early as possible by putting Warren in the prime position of being able to take over in 2020 then. Then committing to a single term might make sense, as Warren might not want to wait for 8 years to run for president.

And if she commits to following through on many of his agenda items, then we'd all be voting for a movement, and not just a single person, and having such a commitment would show that this movement is committed to getting everyone to feel a part of it by having a woman being a likely leader in 2020 with the same agenda of restoring the middle class and disempowering the 1% that has been needed for such a long time now too.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
8. I think that what he's trying to start is longer than a four year project...
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 04:11 PM
Sep 2015

To step down with no one to take his place that carries on the mission in my book, and many supporters of his is not useful.

FDR certainly took longer than a four year term to carry through on rebuilding the country when it was needed then. He had a few missteps on the way that he overcame later too.

If he were to step down to let Warren take charge in 2020, it could still be viewed potentially as a 12 year project then if Warren stays there for two terms, and potentially who she takes as a running mate later hopefully also carrying on his tradition.

He is a bit old perhaps for two terms, but that's still not necessarily a problem. But additionally by having someone like Warren inline for the presidency, it helps perhaps bring many in the Clinton camp wanting a woman president and his camp together for the general election.

Committing to a single term without being clear on who would follow him as VP in my book doesn't work to drum up a revolutionary movement to elect him.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
10. My dad always said that it took the four terms for FDR to
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 09:51 PM
Sep 2015

get what he wanted done. He also said that is why our presidents now often have so much trouble turning the country around. Especially if they only have 4 years.

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
14. I think that there are many others other than Warren -
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:54 PM
Sep 2015

He needs strong legislative leaders to promote his agenda.

Besides Warren, there are plenty of leaders in the progressive caucus - for example Elijah Cummings.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
15. I think he does need a strong populist progressive VP...
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:27 PM
Sep 2015

... to protect him from those who might want to try and out a populist if they feel the VP will answer to big money better, in addition to inheriting the task with the same viewpoints and mission that likely might even last more than two terms like it did for FDR to put some huge reformational changes in place. So that would be one requirement. Elizabeth Warren as a woman candidate would also help bring on board former Hillary campaign followers if he were to win the nomination who are feeling very strongly that the U.S. can finally elect a woman who represents half our population but who has never had direct representation for president. I think that drives a lot of those who back the Clinton campaign. By saying that a woman could be first in line to take over in 2020 if he were to step down after one term would be that much more of a drawing card for them to come out and vote for him and not stay home. Perhaps other women can fit this bill too, but Warren seem the best option at this time.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
6. I don't think it would fly.
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 01:43 PM
Sep 2015

We already have what you might call term limits. They are called elections. Besides, with all the things that Bernie wants to do, he will probably need more than four years.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. I am not sure how I feel about this. It could have unintended consequences.
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 04:19 PM
Sep 2015

(Doesn't everything?) The Iowa caucus starts near the end of January. That is not a heck of a lot of time. If he we to announce this, everyone who interviews him is going to start asking about it. That takes him off message.

That said, I am not in charge of his campaign. You could always call his campaign and suggest it.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Bernie Sanders»I have an idea that I bel...