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wtf is this crap? (Original Post) pinebox Oct 2015 OP
oh great - LiberalElite Oct 2015 #1
Remember pinebox Oct 2015 #3
I did recall that a little while ago - I think LiberalElite Oct 2015 #8
Standard Clinton-supporter rhetoric. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #2
Yup pinebox Oct 2015 #4
It is because he is where they hoped h would be on the issues artislife Oct 2015 #7
I think they just hate Sanders because he's gaining. Cassiopeia Oct 2015 #9
I must have whoever you're complaning with on ignore, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #5
Maybe pinebox Oct 2015 #6
That whole Jill Stien thing is just hilarious, there could not be a worse choice for Bernie. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #10
Not sure why you think that pinebox Oct 2015 #13
Sanders will obviously choose a Democrat as his running mate jfern Oct 2015 #15
That is nothing. Take a look at this. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #11
Just to set the record straight... mak3cats Oct 2015 #12
check it pinebox Oct 2015 #14
Atheists do not believe in God... mak3cats Oct 2015 #16
This showed up in a comment artislife Oct 2015 #17

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
1. oh great -
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 12:26 PM
Oct 2015

northeastern ATHEIST (which I hadn't heard of re: Bernie). That'll grab them in the "Heartland". Religion (or lack of) fucks up everything in this country.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
8. I did recall that a little while ago - I think
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 02:37 PM
Oct 2015

that's why so many young people like him (among other reasons). I was raised RC but left it looong ago. I'm not an atheist but just one of those "nones".

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
2. Standard Clinton-supporter rhetoric.
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 12:39 PM
Oct 2015

Ever wondered why they hate Sanders so much? Not Webb, not O'Malley, not Chaffee, but Sanders? With such fury, such rage? With all the lies and fake-ass memes? Even while Clinton (currently) has such a solid lead in the polls?

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
7. It is because he is where they hoped h would be on the issues
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 01:45 PM
Oct 2015

but they are so wrapped up in a woman president.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
9. I think they just hate Sanders because he's gaining.
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 03:07 PM
Oct 2015

You could insert any candidate against HRC with polling and crowds like Sanders has and they would find any way to trash them.

It's not about Sanders so much as about HRC and any kind of a challenge. Because it really doesn't take much to challenge HRC on the issues.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
5. I must have whoever you're complaning with on ignore,
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 01:05 PM
Oct 2015

but I did see you suggesting Jill Stein for a running mate, which I don't see as any real draw for most voters. First, almost nobody who isn't a political junkie has even heard of her, and second, her only political bona fides seem to be running for office and losing. Bernie might as well choose some random person by lottery to help his chances of getting elected. And, btw, yes, he is Jewish.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
6. Maybe
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 01:11 PM
Oct 2015

But did you watch the video? Have you ever seen the video of her debating Romney? It's rather epic. I think if you put her on a national stage where she has a platform, she'll resonate with people in the same way Bernie does. The only reason she does lose in all honesty is because she doesn't have the exposure that the 2 parties has. As far as Jewish, ethnically yes but religiously, he's described himself as a "secular Jew".

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. That whole Jill Stien thing is just hilarious, there could not be a worse choice for Bernie.
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 03:38 PM
Oct 2015

She has nothing to offer electorally, she carries the third Party history some would call a stigma, she's also from the NE, also over 65. Not a Democrat and with a history of running against Democrats. Then losing, but still. Not caucusing with, running against. Big difference.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
13. Not sure why you think that
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 05:37 PM
Oct 2015

She carries the third party history some call a stigma but keep in mind that Bernie is an indy. Bernie is from the NE as well however green issues here out west are at the forefront (I'm in CO) You think it's hilarious yet as I said, America is sick of both parties. It's one reason why Bernie is gaining so many votes.

Her policies align very close with Bernie. http://www.ontheissues.org/Jill_Stein.htm Ole!

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
12. Just to set the record straight...
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 04:18 PM
Oct 2015

...Bernie has never stated that he is an atheist. He has stated that he "is not very religious." Too completely different things.

(I am an atheist, so I wouldn't care if Bernie is one. But many voters would care.)

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
14. check it
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 05:40 PM
Oct 2015

I read this as being atheist. Maybe I'm mistaken

Bernie’s Beliefs: Bernie is a secular Jew who values and actively engages with people of various faiths for the betterment of American society. http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-religion-and-beliefs/

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
16. Atheists do not believe in God...
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 08:07 PM
Oct 2015

..."secular" means that his spiritual faith is his business and that it doesn't come into play in the way he governs. (Meaning he won't be shoving his beliefs down any else's throat.) It does not mean he does not believe in God - most believers equate atheism with having no morals, so saying that Bernie is an atheist when he hasn't said so himself is not doing him any favors.

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