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Latest presidential poll shows Donald Trump beating Hillary Clinton in head-to-head contest, Trump taking 70% of the electoral voteshttp://powderedwigsociety.com/trump-kills-hitlery-in-head-to-head-matchup/
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Based on an average of the RCP (Real Clear Politics) polling data from all the states and all the head to head matchups between Donald Trump (by far the winner of the GOP) and Hillary Clinton (The winner of the Democratic Party) shows bad news for the Democrats.
Clinton is losing handily in all the swing states, and is even losing Democrat strongholds of Maryland, Connecticut, and Oregon.
According to many polls, and the averages, Clinton cannot even hold on to California and New York without a major fight. On the bright side for the Democrat party, they make gains in the south as Obama is now off the ticket.
Trump would defeat Hillary Clinton by 5 percentage points nationwide: getting 52% and Clinton gathering 47% (presuming the pollsters are citing the popular vote)
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This is one freaky website!
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)the nomination will most certainly guarantee a President Trump.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)We'd be blocked from their group for posting something like this. Just shows they're trolling our group.
SandersDem
(592 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Trying to share it around?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... those of us on the left will have to hold our noses to vote for her, and many will not do that.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)And Hillary and Jeb both want to face each other because they are allies serving the same Wall St masters. It's revolting. Democrats always seem to be able to snatch defeat from the clutches of victory. Nominate Bernie and let's just get on with it.
Republicans won't be as motivated to vote against the socialist from Vermont. They'll be a little bit nicer to him, and go a little easier on him in the campaign.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)or so says Hillary supporters. Racist gun nuts are the Republican base, they should love him!
Unless someone's been lying to us?
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)He will also get a TON more votes from the politically apathetic/tuned out that are supporting Bernie now, but see Hillary as part of the Establishment problem.
Of course, this would pay off for down ticket races as well.
Nominating Bernie is the BEST thing that the Democratic Party could do, and it has the potential to give us back at least one house of Congress.
Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)And on boards like this, her supporters are her worst enemies.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)In her gleeful undermining of the Democratic primary process with corporate supporters and flip-flopping zero sum mutterings, she is driving us towards, at the very least, a House and Senate unified against Democratic Party principles, and possibly a three branch triumvirate of fascism with Trump in charge.
No coattails, probably no Executive Branch, and she can see the writing on the wall just as well as we can, but still rushes pell-mell into the toilet of disaster.
We need a statesman.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)She doesn't even care. It's all about herself.
senz
(11,945 posts)To me, it looks like a kind of mental illness. It's frightening that she has gotten this far.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)She used "I" 14 times in her opening statement.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)If I could lick them to kingdom come I would. They stink.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Are you Bush loving, Goldman Sachs admiring Clinton supporters brain dead? For real? Or are you 1% Vichy sell-outs? Can you face yourself in the mirror and if you can with a condescending comment are you ready for payback?
senz
(11,945 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Laser102
(816 posts)4dsc
(5,787 posts)So I would take this poll lightly.
TBF
(32,056 posts)will just hunker down until Donald blows himself up. I'm sure that's what the Bush meeting this weekend was about. Telling Jeb! to cool his jets. They'll dig up stuff on Donald - and they will be the ones to strategically release it right before key voting. The Bushes know how to play this game.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)He's the Establishment threat right now for him.
The media will take care of Trump and Carson, but if Rubio is still ahead of him Rubio might end up being the Establishment choice.
They are all just horrible though. Really horrible.
TBF
(32,056 posts)"If there was ever any doubt, there isnt anymore. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush sees the campaign of Florida Sen. Marco Rubio as the major obstacle between himself and the White House, and hes willing to take the fight to his former protégé."
http://time.com/4087492/jeb-bush-marco-rubio-gop-obama/
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)HRC hate runs very deep...I think it's very underestimated.
Many female neighbors and co-workers get all red in the face and state they would not vote for her under any circumstances.
The other issue that comes up is...trust.
Personally I look at who supports her...big money, Banksters/Corporate types, very Entrenched Establishment, War Hawks and the like.
Bernie is who we need.
We need Bernie. We don't need another status quo.
Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)HRC this morning. Very disappointing. I thought he was a true progressive.
sinkingfeeling
(51,454 posts)decisions concerning their well-being.
demwing
(16,916 posts)The website source of the article looks to be a Tea Partier's wet dream. The author claims he pulled data from RCP, but doesn't show it or cite the reference. For all we know he made this stuff up outta thin air.
marym625
(17,997 posts)A teabaggers wet dream.
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)based on
http://www.270towin.com/2016-polls/2016-general-election-matchups/
but I agree with the people who think Trump is going to get derailed at some point, I doubt he'll be the Republican nominee.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)On Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:13 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
poll shows Donald Trump beating Hillary Clinton...Trump taking 70% of the electoral votes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128066478
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This source,The Powdered Wig Society,is a racist right wing site that specializes in attacking Hispanics, African Americans ,gays and Muslims. The OP literally had to change the title of the article from Hitlery to Hillary.There is no excuse for trash like this on DU,let alone recced to the front page.
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marym625
(17,997 posts)Oy! Some people just love that alert button.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Who in the fuck brings an article to DU calling Hillary "hitlery".
And a jury let this stand? Fuck that bigoted bullshit website.
You should be ashamed of yourself posting this disgusting freeper-like crap anywhere on DU.
Autumn
(45,066 posts)You should calm down. No member of this group discussing the article is calling Hillary anything. They are discussing the contents of the article not focusing on one word and they are not endorsing the web site.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Yea, I take my orders from you.
If you're cool with bringing in a right wing article that calls Hillary "hitlery" (the title in the link) for discussion, well that's your right. Just like it's my right to be offended by that and speak out.
I imagine you could block me for that, but I do my best not to trash talk anyone's candidate.
Autumn
(45,066 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)There is no way Trump wins against any of the Democratic candidates.
senz
(11,945 posts)Both Trump and Bernie appeal to the prevailing mood. But Trump would usher in fascism while Bernie would return us to democracy.
That's the essential choice.
Whereas a vote for Hillary is a vote for continued slide into joblessness, poverty, and transnational corporate hegemony. Trump would simply take us there faster.
Autumn
(45,066 posts)ALERTED DISCUSSION THREAD
-- Author: Demeter
-- Title: poll shows Donald Trump beating Hillary Clinton...Trump taking 70% of the electoral votes
-- Location: Bernie Sanders
-- Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015, 04:53 AM
-- Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/128066478
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-- Sent by: MohRokTah
-- Reason: This discussion thread violates the Statement of Purpose for this forum.
-- Alerter's comments: A site that has as it's address trump-kills-hitlery and is an extreme right wing site? Really?
STATEMENT OF PURPOSE: Bernie Sanders
A group for supporters of Bernie Sanders.
Your OP is about the election and I'm not interested in looking through the site so I am not inclined to lock this if the members are discussing it.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Frankly, I didn't even know it existed. And as despicable as it is, I don't understand alerts on sites citing rwnj crap. They're used all over this site. It's when they're used to prove "fact," especially when it is conjecture posted, rather than to incite discussion that I take issue.
jmondine
(1,649 posts)Consider the source.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-26/the-most-likely-next-president-is-hillary-clinton
A virulent strain of Clinton Derangement Syndrome, which scientists and Republicans thought had been wiped out at the end of the last century, is now afflicting millions of conservative Americans. Some Republicans so detest Hillary Clinton they are badly underestimating how likely she is, at this point in the campaign, to be Americas 45th president. Their denial is just as strong now as it was a month ago, before Clinton began a run of political victories that have enhanced her prospects, all while the roller derby/demolition derby that is the Republican nomination contest has continued to harm the GOPs chances of winning back the White House.
To be sure, nothing ever happens in a linear or tidy fashion with the Clintons; she is certain to add more chapters to the Perils of Hillary saga before Election Day 2016. Bernie Sanders could still upend her in Iowa, New Hampshire, or both, which could throw the nomination battle into unadulterated bedlam. Even if Clinton is nominated, a strong Republican candidate could absolutely defeat her next November, with victory as simple as the party putting forth a nominee who is more likeable to voters and better on television. Indeed, many elite and grassroots Republicans believe Clintons personality, which they cant stand, will keep her out of the Oval Office no matter what.
But October has been good to Clinton: a glittering debate performance, the decision of potential rival Joe Biden not to run (greatly simplifying her path to the nomination), the vanquishing of Republicans during her daylong Benghazi hearing, and a solid turn at the Iowa Democratic Partys Jefferson-Jackson dinner Saturday night. All have improved Clintons odds of cruising into the White House twelve months hence, and have thrown into sharper relief some of the advantages she has had all along...
IMHO IT ISN'T THE GOP WHO IS DELUSIONAL...MASSIVE FAWNING ADULATION FROM BLOOMBERG
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-27/why-donald-trump-could-win-the-republican-nomination
The far right isn't what's buoying the populist plutocrat. In ways large and small, with policy and with personality, billionaire Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is forcing his party's establishment to confront the vast divide between party leaders and the voters who for more than 100 days have wanted him to carry their torch to the White House.
A prevailing narrative is that Trump is leading in the polls by appealing to the far right. That's an oversimplification. Trump is offering Republicans something no other candidate can: An insider's knowledge of the elite combined with a mischievous determination to upend it and an unorthodox set of policy prescriptionsrunning the gamut from immigration to campaign finance to Social Securitythat aim to achieve that goal. In this year's contest for the Republican nomination, that platform has proven to have staying power.
Were all out there like little bee workers trying to get these people elected, and then nothing changes! said Fay Schall, a 63-year-old conservative Republican from O'Brian County, Iowa. A Trump supporter, she said the real estate tycoon articulates the frustration voters feel, in part because he doesn't worry about being politically correct. People are tired of it, she said. I think thats the nerve that Trump is hitting. Everybody is tired of being trampled on. I think thats whats resonating.
IN OTHER WORDS, A DESIRE FOR REAL CHANGE...A REVOLUTION, IF YOU WILL...MORE
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