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LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 08:05 PM Oct 2015

Bernie Sanders says the tone of the Democratic presidential race has become too personal



CONCORD, N.H. -- Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Saturday that he thinks the Democratic race for the White House has become too personal as supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton have accused him and his campaign of taking on a sexist tone.

“I do, and I think that is unfortunate,” Sanders told reporters at a news conference called here to tout endorsements from a statewide postal workers union and two local trade unions.

“We disagree on a number of the issues, but I don’t think we want to make this campaign personal, and I have tried my best not to do that,” Sanders said. “A serious election is a debate on the issues. That’s called democracy, not attacking people on a personal level.”

Sanders has been fending off suggestions of sexism from Clinton boosters since late last week, when Clinton took issue with one of Sanders’s comments on gun control from the first Democratic debate in Las Vegas. Sanders said that he favors sensible solutions to reduce violence but told Clinton that “all the shouting in the world is not going to do what I hope all of us want.”


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Bernie Sanders says the tone of the Democratic presidential race has become too personal (Original Post) LiberalArkie Oct 2015 OP
Class act, that Sanders portlander23 Oct 2015 #1
Yup. No matter how this ends up, he is a great role model. erronis Oct 2015 #8
He's been pushing for a policies based campaign all along. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #2
I think people close to Bernie should have warned him about this. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #3
He probably didn't need a warning. He's been running for office for a long time--and often merrily Oct 2015 #6
I think he actually did need a bit of a heads up Kalidurga Nov 2015 #32
We Knew From Previous Election Cycles The Low Road That The HRC Campaign Would Take cantbeserious Oct 2015 #4
Gee, I can't imagine any candidate anywhere, ever, using the word "shout." Beartracks Oct 2015 #5
Ugly smears, directly and by proxy. One of the lowest roads in politics. merrily Oct 2015 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Oct 2015 #10
Hillary lost the 2008 primary that way. Bernie has won lots of elections, including ones merrily Oct 2015 #11
Nope, it would only be sexist if used it which would be most unlikely in any event. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #21
I can't really recall "He has his claws into her." Do recall "She has her claws into him." merrily Nov 2015 #28
She lost it with me SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #26
First time I can recall a Democrat saying, in effect, "Unless I am the Democratic nominee, merrily Nov 2015 #29
That was my take. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #31
Might you consider making this an OP? SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #33
Hillary's using Karl Rove's playbook and you're proud of that. smokey nj Oct 2015 #12
Ok by me Old Codger Oct 2015 #16
Exactly. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #27
Bernie is NOT saying, let's just all get along. pangaia Oct 2015 #17
That is really too bad that you've already bought into that belief system... MrMickeysMom Oct 2015 #18
You must be so proud! Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #19
Um, what? Beartracks Oct 2015 #20
+ One googool! n/t Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #34
Issues. SoapBox Oct 2015 #9
+1 nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #23
Time to send Bernie more money...... Capt.Rocky300 Oct 2015 #13
Yep. I started a Bernie fund long ago. Everytime I read an unfair post about Bernie here, Live and Learn Oct 2015 #24
he does not like it - hopemountain Oct 2015 #14
Hillary always digs a deep trench so she can take the super low road jfern Oct 2015 #15
Hillary has a history of using wedge issues. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #22
Well when you have no policy other than business as usual ... TheFarS1de Nov 2015 #25
wonder how this will get twisted. Hiraeth Nov 2015 #30
The billionaires that are backing the HRC campaign won't stop at anything to get her rhett o rick Nov 2015 #35

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. He's been pushing for a policies based campaign all along.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 08:07 PM
Oct 2015

So not a shocker that he's annoyed people are trying to make it a race about misleading soundbites and ad hominem attacks rather than policies.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
3. I think people close to Bernie should have warned him about this.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 08:12 PM
Oct 2015

We knew as early as June that this kind of thing was coming.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. He probably didn't need a warning. He's been running for office for a long time--and often
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 08:55 PM
Oct 2015

against both the Republican and Democratic candidates.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
32. I think he actually did need a bit of a heads up
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 02:02 AM
Nov 2015

He is/was friends with Hillary. I don't know how much lying was done in other campaigns. But, I see what is going on now and the lying is brutal. I think he gets campaign amnesia anyway. Like when you have more than one kid you sort of forget the hospital stuff and it's all good when you get home.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
5. Gee, I can't imagine any candidate anywhere, ever, using the word "shout."
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 08:47 PM
Oct 2015

The "sexist" claim holds as much water as the "racist" claim.

Just another red herring.

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merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. Ugly smears, directly and by proxy. One of the lowest roads in politics.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 08:59 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Sat Oct 31, 2015, 09:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Response to merrily (Reply #7)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
11. Hillary lost the 2008 primary that way. Bernie has won lots of elections, including ones
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 09:47 PM
Oct 2015

in which both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party united to back a single candidate against him and ones where his opponent outspent him by many millions. And all with very little money and no political party behind him.

But, thanks for your input re: Hillary's sharpened claws! You may want to watch that kind of comparison, though. Some might see it as sexist?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
28. I can't really recall "He has his claws into her." Do recall "She has her claws into him."
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:33 AM
Nov 2015

Offhand, if either of them is a stereotype, I'd say it was the latter.

To potential Jurors: the "sharpened claw: language is not mine. It was in a post that got deleted.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
26. She lost it with me
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:21 AM
Nov 2015

When she said (on foreign policy IIRC), I'm OK, McCain's OK, but I dunno about that Obama fella.

First time in my life to make a primary campaign donation.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
29. First time I can recall a Democrat saying, in effect, "Unless I am the Democratic nominee,
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:35 AM
Nov 2015

Americans would be better off voting Republican."

Spoken in the best interests of the nation? Good Democrat? Team player? Or personal ambition?

I leave it to you, dear, dear reader.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
16. Ok by me
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:42 PM
Oct 2015

You are saying that she is pretty much the same as the republicans then... About time some of her supporters admitted it...

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
18. That is really too bad that you've already bought into that belief system...
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:44 PM
Oct 2015

It's what made the Democrats start acting like Republicans YEARS ago.

Fortunately, I and many, many others, including all sorts of people I talk to on the campaign trail every day don't buy into the sharp claws. It sure does not compliment a disingenuous approach, either.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
19. You must be so proud!
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:46 PM
Oct 2015

False attacks by your candidate is a good thing? I know this is politics, at least how it is currently practiced, but it's another reason why I support Bernie, he wouldn't do it. It's called character.

Funny, I cannot picture you saying the Benghazi hearings are still ok even though it's a pure political hatchet job, but hey, good to see them sharpening their claws huh?

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
20. Um, what?
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:46 PM
Oct 2015

I haven't been following very closely (since this whole "sexist" claim isn't one of the real issues of the campaign), so I don't know who jumped all over Sanders first about the word "shout" supposedly being used as some kind of sexist slander, but it really speaks more to a) someone's thin skin, or b) someone's looking at the world through misogynist-colored glasses, or c) someone's attempt to swiftboat Sanders a la Karl Rove (e.g. taking something that didn't happen and claiming loudly that it happened).

I have no doubt that Hillary's claws are sharp and ready for the fight, which is great, but this all seems to me to be something cooked up on the sidelines by someone else.

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SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
9. Issues.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 09:29 PM
Oct 2015

It's really refreshing in such a campaign.

Too bad others don't want the same...dirty politics covers up their flip-flops and changing positions.

We Loves Ya, Bernie!

Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
13. Time to send Bernie more money......
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:06 PM
Oct 2015

and buy another mug. Damn, Hillary's attacks are starting to cost me a lot of money. At least I always feel better when I contribute to Bernie's campaign after another one her sleazy unfounded attacks.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
24. Yep. I started a Bernie fund long ago. Everytime I read an unfair post about Bernie here,
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:09 PM
Oct 2015

I put a dollar in the jar for him. DU will have me broke in no time at all.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
14. he does not like it -
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:30 PM
Oct 2015

he believes we are better than slinging shit at one another like the other party candidates. but this will not stop him in his run for president. just the wp trying to make him seem weak.

TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
25. Well when you have no policy other than business as usual ...
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:04 AM
Nov 2015

That is really all she has left . Just talk about anything than what is actually relevant . Reminds me of the squirrel scene out of Up

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
35. The billionaires that are backing the HRC campaign won't stop at anything to get her
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:51 PM
Nov 2015

into the WH. I fear this is just the beginning. They have the money and the inclination to win at all costs.

We must get money out of politics. It used to be a Democratic goal, but some Democrats have decided to forgo that goal until after their candidate wins. HRC is willing to use Citizens United black money but says she will nominate Supreme Court Justices to end it, after she uses is. It's called situational ethics.

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