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Related: About this forumCarson and Trump, really? And yet you buy into the polls?
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Only bringing this up now, as I was curious to see Dr Carson's appearance on The View, as well as the debate/discussion with Bernie on CNN about the SOTU. Read plenty about his statements and positions up to now, but had never actually heard him before.
Also have seen the questions raised about whether Dr Carson may have had a stroke or similar. While I have little experience with such conditions, I can now see how that the question can be raised in sincerity. He's often described as calm and soft spoken, but it seems to go much further than that. He really does not seem to be "all there". Considering his tremendous accomplishments, has he always been this way? I have trouble visualizing him getting past a first interview as a mid-level manager anywhere in the white-collar world (whereas for reference, I could see, say, Dubya succeeding, as his "fratboyism" isn't necessarily considered a problem, or at least isn't uncommon, in the corp landscape).
Anyway, here we have Trump and now Carson leading in the polls on the GOP side. No question they're currently enjoying a big boost by the TP's and/or fundamentalists. But for the party in general? Anybody here want to give them even a double-digit chance of going all the way rather than fizzling out? Any Hillary supporters who think they have a chance (especially those who claim Bernie is too extreme for the mainstream)?
So when a Hillary supporter says, "Look at the polls!" ask them about Trump and Carson and why the polls have meaning only on the Dem side.
Edit: Also to point out, remember who won IA the last couple times out? Santorum and Huckabee. Where did that get them?
Being ahead right now means squat. We're in -maybe- the 2nd Inning. Let Hillary have her 2-to-1 lead. Do you really believe she's going to be pitching a shutout from here on out?
eridani
(51,907 posts)--Trump or Carson or Fiorina. Those are the candidates with a combined total of zero years in any public office.
Bernin4U
(812 posts)That said, I'll give Fiorina a much better chance of at least making it to the finish line than Trump or Carson.
Overall, at this point I'd have to put my money on Rubio.
artislife
(9,497 posts)The woman's mother was visiting. She was German but had lived for 20 years in the states before going back home.
She said to me at first she thought Trump was stupid but he was starting to really impress her.
I just said he lost me with the first attack on the Latino community. We had a little discussion about illegal immigrants--very interesting since Germany is now feeling it. But I ended the conversation with the fact he painting all Latinos as people who had no documents to be in this country and that he happily employes a lot of them in his businesses.
I haven't been following Trump, so I am curious why he is sounding smarter to someone.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)He can come across as the sane one on the Republican side, but he is bat shit CRAZY!
I see him as a very real danger to the nation that may gain momentum.
Never forget 2012 when everyone on the Republican side of the primary held the lead at one point.
eridani
(51,907 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)The only constant is change, especially in polling.
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Remember 2012. pizza man, abortion woman, finally dog crate man took it. There were others, but every candidate in 2012 took the lead for at least a week or 2 before mittens got the nod.
It's only Nov 1st, people are thinking about who they don't want to see on Thanksgiving and how they can come up with the cash for the gifts they want to give in 2 months.