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TBF

(32,062 posts)
Mon May 18, 2015, 12:21 PM May 2015

He's Already Facebook Royalty

Bernie Sanders Wants to Be President, but He’s Already Facebook Royalty
By NICK CORASANITI MAY 18, 2015 (New York Times)


WASHINGTON — The quotes he posts are rarely pithy, and often sayings he thinks up in the shower. The photographs he puts up sometimes show him frowning, while others show him gazing oddly into the horizon. And he does not seem to care about the importance of videos.

But somehow, Bernie Sanders, the 73-year-old senator from Vermont, has emerged as a king of social media early in the 2016 presidential campaign, amid a field of tech-savvy contenders.

His Facebook posts attract tens of thousands of likes and shares, and threads about him often break through to the home page of Reddit, where the cluster of topics rarely focuses on presidential election politics.

< snip >

Mr. Sanders’s prominence online is all the more improbable given that he does not do many things the way social media experts say they should be done ...

Much more here: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/us/politics/bernie-sanders-wants-to-be-president-but-hes-already-facebook-royalty.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=photo-spot-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

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He's Already Facebook Royalty (Original Post) TBF May 2015 OP
Nice story, but I think Bernie's quotes are quite pithy. merrily May 2015 #1
For the NYTimes I thought it wasn't bad - TBF May 2015 #3
+1 BrotherIvan May 2015 #4
Very true. And, anything that ups his name recognition at this stage is great. merrily May 2015 #13
Mr. Corasaniti apparently does not know about people like us. We all have been sharing his video's jwirr May 2015 #11
Or, he could know and not care. merrily May 2015 #15
Or, he could know and care a lot, and want to discourage that kinda thing. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #29
Try to stop it from spreading. merrily May 2015 #31
Great quote..... daleanime May 2015 #33
I guess one person's pith Jackpine Radical May 2015 #32
LOL. I liked your comment about merrily May 2015 #35
Winning ...and hardly trying ...and no multi thousand dollar corporate speaking tours . L0oniX May 2015 #2
Nice to see him getting that attention, MoonchildCA May 2015 #5
The NYTimes is going to support Hillary 200% TBF May 2015 #7
Check out latest pinned Media post n/t marym625 May 2015 #9
... TBF May 2015 #22
"Jeez! I find that comment condescending and dismissive." Jackpine Radical May 2015 #8
“Usually, it’s in the shower where something pops into my head,” bunnies May 2015 #12
From the article: bunnies May 2015 #10
Please post this irrelevant comment a few more times. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #16
whoa. bunnies May 2015 #19
I wasn't commenting on the shower business, just taking exception Jackpine Radical May 2015 #23
Oh I see. bunnies May 2015 #25
The "experts" on DU and in the media have definitely gotten two things wrong BrotherIvan May 2015 #6
I think they are underestimating him a great deal - TBF May 2015 #20
After Romney, the GOP trying to paint the Clinton's as "elitist"? Please proceed. Fred Sanders May 2015 #24
If it's Jeb they won't use it TBF May 2015 #37
Thanks for your points - I agree on all. erronis May 2015 #21
Corasaniti wouldn't know pith Jackpine Radical May 2015 #14
Bernie handles the media very well - TBF May 2015 #17
Exactly. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #18
He definitely doesn't need to waste time defining himself or fluffing up his record arcane1 May 2015 #28
That he does. I have been shareing his quotations for some time now. Autumn May 2015 #39
This is what happens when you use ideas instead of slogans arcane1 May 2015 #26
Damning with faint praise... gregcrawford May 2015 #27
K&R for Senator Sanders pscot May 2015 #30
K & R for President Sanders libdem4life May 2015 #34
Kicking for Bernie and honesty in politics navarth May 2015 #36
Kick. Autumn May 2015 #38

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. Nice story, but I think Bernie's quotes are quite pithy.
Mon May 18, 2015, 12:36 PM
May 2015

I'm not quite sure what Mr. Corasaniti means when he says Bernie does not care about videos. His campaign puts videos on You Tube.

But somehow, Bernie Sanders, the 73-year-old senator from Vermont, has emerged as a king of social media early in the 2016 presidential campaign, amid a field of tech-savvy contenders


Just dumbfuck luck, I guess. Clearly, Bernie's too stupid to have achieved this on purpose


But, I'm not mad at Mr. Corasaniti. At this stage, all publicity is great as long as the get his name right. And calling Bernie the king of social media is pretty damned cool.



TBF

(32,062 posts)
3. For the NYTimes I thought it wasn't bad -
Mon May 18, 2015, 12:38 PM
May 2015

they are decidedly in Hillary's court so any praise is a surprise.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
4. +1
Mon May 18, 2015, 12:44 PM
May 2015

While Clinton does fundraisers, Bernie has been taking great advantage of media coverage. It's good to get in early before the money juggernaut happens and it's Clinton 24/7.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. Mr. Corasaniti apparently does not know about people like us. We all have been sharing his video's
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:21 PM
May 2015

as much as we can and we will continue. And that is all it takes to get people to really like Bernie Sanders.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
29. Or, he could know and care a lot, and want to discourage that kinda thing.
Mon May 18, 2015, 02:18 PM
May 2015

"No matter how cynical I get, I can't keep up."-Lily Tomlin

merrily

(45,251 posts)
31. Try to stop it from spreading.
Mon May 18, 2015, 02:28 PM
May 2015

I just watched the episode of West Wing in which Lily Tomlin becomes the President's Executive Secretary.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
35. LOL. I liked your comment about
Mon May 18, 2015, 02:45 PM
May 2015

not pulling the wool over anyone's eyes after NYC made his polyester worsted remark.

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
5. Nice to see him getting that attention,
Mon May 18, 2015, 12:51 PM
May 2015

...but it seems a bit back-handed to me.
"Sayings he thinks up in the shower?" Seriously?
Bernie has, at least, hundreds of hours recorded in conversations with the public, and many more speaking on the senate floor. There are many instances from which to draw quotes, probably more than most politicians, without him having to rely on dreaming things up in the shower.
Jeez! I find that comment condescending and dismissive.

TBF

(32,062 posts)
7. The NYTimes is going to support Hillary 200%
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:15 PM
May 2015

so I'll take all the positive we can get - and calling him Facebook Royalty is ok by me. But you are quite correct that some of this may be tongue-in-cheek for them. It may all backfire though as he gains momentum. Perhaps their golden girl won't be the winner after all ...

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
8. "Jeez! I find that comment condescending and dismissive."
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:17 PM
May 2015

So the writer was quite effective in conveying his intended effect.

The NYT has no interest in giving Bernie an even break. Expect nasty, gooey little things like this to come attached to anything they write about him. They're hoping to transfer the nasty-gooeys to the candidate himself.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
12. “Usually, it’s in the shower where something pops into my head,”
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:24 PM
May 2015

Its a quote from Bernie in the article.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
10. From the article:
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:19 PM
May 2015

"Usually, it’s in the shower where something pops into my head,” Mr. Sanders said, adding, “I play a very, very active role in writing, literally writing, what goes up there on Facebook.”


 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
19. whoa.
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:37 PM
May 2015

I dont take issue with the comment as you apparently do. I was just trying to point out that what you guys are claiming is wrong. Pointing fingers at the times for trying to marginalize him when it was a comment he made *himself* seems a bit... strange. Carry on.

ps. thanks for biting my head off though. Its been a while.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
23. I wasn't commenting on the shower business, just taking exception
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:44 PM
May 2015

to this: "The quotes he posts are rarely pithy….&quot i.e. Bernie really has nothing to say, so why are people excited?) and the qwhole tone of the article conveyed the writer's apparent intention of dismisings anything Bernie says.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
6. The "experts" on DU and in the media have definitely gotten two things wrong
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:06 PM
May 2015

1) Bernie Sanders has been embraced by young people, which is the reason for his social media popularity

2) his age and hair so far have been embraced as well

Let's hope they are wrong (I'm pretty sure they are) about the word "socialism." I think you have to be 50+ for that word to mean anything. When people online ask what is socialism and then they get an explanation--that he's a Democratic Socialist who believes programs such as Social Security and Medicare--they say, "Oh, what's the big deal then?" They understand the idea that these things are good for the people as they will understand Bernie's education bill.

Let's hope the idea that only money can win is also wrong. This worries me the most because I have seen the GMO labeling bill go down in California of all places because of the tons of money poured into the opposition campaign. People really will believe anything and one of the laws of marketing is that if you hear something enough, it gets in your brain.

But I also think the Hillary campaign has made a critical mistake: by having her make money in politics/Citizen's United one of her "four pillars", she is just highlighting an incredibly hypocritical position. She isn't even talking to reporters, just fundraising for two PACs, doh. It also brings up constantly the foundation donation problem. I am definitely scratching my head and wondering how the campaign strategists can be so stupid. Did they just read a focus group report on people's issues and copy them without even thinking it through? Dumb, dumb, stupid. If she didn't talk about it at all, it would be far better.

TBF

(32,062 posts)
20. I think they are underestimating him a great deal -
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:39 PM
May 2015

both the "experts" at DU and the press for that matter. The money issue is definitely going to be a factor. Not only the PACs but her own personal wealth. With the exception of Jeb Bush there is no one running on the republican side with her kind of wealth. They will definitely have Koch money behind them, but their own personal balance sheets (guys like Walker, Rubio, Paul) are going to show much less income/wealth. They will try to use that to paint her as an elitist and that will play well amongst their base (the midwest, the south, the churches).

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
24. After Romney, the GOP trying to paint the Clinton's as "elitist"? Please proceed.
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:50 PM
May 2015

Sanders does indeed handle the press very well. And he has lots of time to improve.

TBF

(32,062 posts)
37. If it's Jeb they won't use it
Mon May 18, 2015, 03:58 PM
May 2015

and I can't believe they'd be stupid enough to run Romney again. The others have net worth far below Clinton. This really is not rocket science unless you live inside the beltway and are completely out of touch with what average people are saying.

I understand it's just a game to you.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
14. Corasaniti wouldn't know pith
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:28 PM
May 2015

if we all got together and pithed on him.


Heeeeeere's Bernie!

Let us wage a moral and political war against the billionaires and corporate leaders, on Wall Street and elsewhere, whose policies and greed are destroying the middle class of America.

You know, I think many people have the mistaken impression that Congress regulates Wall Street. In truth that's not the case. The real truth is that Wall Street regulates the Congress.

If a financial institution is too big to fail, it is too big to exist.

To be honest with you, I worry about concentration of ownership in media, where you have a handful of media conglomerates largely controlling what we see, hear and read.



I expect Corasaniti (let us hope there is a core o' sanity in there somewhere) finds this selection particularly un-pithy.

TBF

(32,062 posts)
17. Bernie handles the media very well -
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:34 PM
May 2015

he just continues to talk directly to the people no matter what they ask him. He's a very intelligent man.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
18. Exactly.
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:36 PM
May 2015

His is an easier path than that of most politicians, who are at great pains to preserve and enhance a carefully constructed public image that doesn't fully accord with their true nature.

With Bernie, what ya see is what ya get.

And I'm betting that for once, a lot of people will be able to see the difference.

Autumn

(45,088 posts)
39. That he does. I have been shareing his quotations for some time now.
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:32 AM
May 2015

Almost everybody including a couple of fox news loving idiots seem to like them.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
26. This is what happens when you use ideas instead of slogans
Mon May 18, 2015, 02:03 PM
May 2015

He's all over my Facebook news feed, from a wide variety of sources. I've even seen conservative former classmates sharing his quotes

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
27. Damning with faint praise...
Mon May 18, 2015, 02:06 PM
May 2015

... is a transparent ploy. The Clinton juggernaut and those who anointed her before there was even an alternative candidate are getting very nervous, though admitting that publicly would only enhance Bernie's standing, so they're biting their collective tongues.

Hillary's got some old baggage that the Republicans should have abandoned long ago, having been totally discredited by their own people, fer Chrissakes, but newer revelations could be far more damaging, and her refusal to engage with the press or ordinary Americans is most definitely going to come back to bite her pants-suited posterior.

Here's the thing none of her Machiavellian managers seem to be able to grasp: BERNIE TELLS PEOPLE THE TRUTH!

Ya oughta try it sometime, Hill.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
36. Kicking for Bernie and honesty in politics
Mon May 18, 2015, 02:46 PM
May 2015

and kicking against those who make craven political decisions such as voting for the IWR.

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