Bernie Sanders

eridani

(51,907 posts) Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:12 AM Nov 2015

Why Bernie Sanders Cleared a Path to Victory in 2nd Debate

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/33524-focus-why-bernie-sanders-cleared-a-path-to-victory-in-2nd-debate

But let’s face it, when Democrats caucus and vote they will not be doing so based on foreign policy. Besides, Bernie Sanders did make waves on foreign policy in a manner that could just help him in the long run.

When Sanders compared the invasion of Iraq to regime change in Iran, Chile, and Guatemala, he reassured the progressive base that he will not have an interventionist foreign policy.

“The disagreement is, not only did I vote against the war in Iraq, if you look at history, you will find that regime change, whether it was in the 1950s in Iran, toppling Salvador Allende in Chile, overthrowing the government of Guatemala – these toppings of governments, regime change, have unintended consequences. On this issue I am a little more conservative than the secretary. I am not a big fan of regime change,” said Sanders as the watch party at Drake University exploded in cheers. In the debate hall there really wasn’t much reaction to anything throughout the debate. It was a reserved, establishment crowd.

But at the watch party as Sanders delivered that response you could hear “Whoa,” “Oh my,” and “Yes” coming from people who were happy to hear a candidate for the Democratic Party’s nomination for president admitting to US foreign policy mistakes in Iran, Chile and Guatemala.

When the media and the pundits try to determine who won debates, they are looking at the event through filters colored by the past. I think Bernie made a very important step in solidifying anti-war anti-intervention groups who were uneasy about some of his past votes on foreign policy. That was lost on the pundits.

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Why Bernie Sanders Cleared a Path to Victory in 2nd Debate (Original Post) eridani Nov 2015 OP

Lol path to victory rjsquirrel Nov 2015 #1

i will never understand this logic retrowire Nov 2015 #2

Using that logic Robbins Nov 2015 #4

This is bernie group Robbins Nov 2015 #3

This is a protected group geared toward support of Sanders. Cassiopeia Nov 2015 #5

How is Bernie "flawed as hell?" n/t Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #6

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)

1. Lol path to victory

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:59 AM

Nov 2015

Come on, for real. Fewer people watched it than any other debate this year.

I love Bernie, was planning to vote for him in the primary as a protest vote against Clinton, but then I fully expect I will be voting in the general for my first woman president. Flawed as hell, but they all are. And I have a daughter so it's personal for me that way.

Bernie ain't winning any state and he didnt clear any path to doing so. He's a challenge candidate and doing a great job of pulling Hillary left and keeping her feet to the fire.

It's his most ardent supporters on DU who have me reconsidering my protest primary vote. I have never seen such arrogant misogynistic white privilege arrayed around a candidate from the left.

What a wake up call. Bernie needs to disown some of his more strident backers.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)

2. i will never understand this logic

Reply to rjsquirrel (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:38 AM

Nov 2015

of judging a candidate based on people they have no control over. *facepalm*

Robbins

(5,066 posts)

4. Using that logic

Reply to retrowire (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:19 AM

Nov 2015

Clinton approves of her supporters accusing Sanders supporters of being racists and sexists.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)

3. This is bernie group

Reply to rjsquirrel (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:17 AM

Nov 2015

sorry we are not protest votes here.we are true supporters of bernie for president.

coming here saying he ainet winning any state and pulling clinton left is defeatest and it's total BS.you can't pull clinton anywhere.
if she wins primaray she will move back to the right.

Her being a woman is ilrelvent.this is battle for the country and soul of democratic party.

attacking bernie supporters is what makes us dislike her even more.you just hinted we are all a bunch of racists and sexists.Many
Bernie supporters would have supported elizabeth warren if she ran.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)

5. This is a protected group geared toward support of Sanders.

Reply to rjsquirrel (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:23 AM

Nov 2015

Just a heads up.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)

6. How is Bernie "flawed as hell?" n/t

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:00 PM

Nov 2015

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