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rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:47 PM Nov 2015

Why would a Democrat support H. Clinton and her stand on Social Security?

Democrats have long been supporters of Social Security. We have a choice now of a candidate that has long supported SS and Medicare in Senator Sanders and a candidate that has fought for a decade, making the top 6% pay their fair share by raising the cap.

In 2008 Clinton said, “I’m certainly against one of Senator Obama’s ideas, which is to lift the cap on the payroll tax, because that would impose additional taxes on people who are educators, police officers, firefighters and the like.” She, of course, was insinuating that “ educators, police officers, firefighters” were making over $97,000 a year. Of course few if any “ educators, police officers, firefighters” were making over $97,000 per year. And if they were making $100,000, the additional tax would only cover the $3,000 that they previously weren't being taxed on.

In fact only 6% of Americans earn over $97,000. Raising the cap would make these 6%, that Clinton is favoring, pay their equal share as those of us earning much less.

Now faced with a true progressive challenge from Senator Sanders, Clinton has changed her stand from being solidly against strengthening SS by simply raising the cap to now “considering the possibility” of raising the cap. Sounds like just so much rhetoric to me. Recently Clinton responded to questions about cutting SS benefits, saying that she would like to see SS “enhanced”. That sounds scary. “Enhanced” is usually Republicon Speak for “Cut”.

Are H. Clinton's supporters willing to risk cuts in Social Security to prevent a progressive from becoming president?

Cross posted from GD: P

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Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
2. Kicked and recommended to the Max! Sounds very much like her position on Medicare for All.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:37 PM
Nov 2015

I would remind you that one of Third Way's stated goals is to cut Social Security.

We have it too good!

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
3. Video from 2008 where Obama "schools" Hillary on WHO the Middle CLass Is :
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 03:37 PM
Nov 2015

Looks like she didn't learn anything in 2008, or since:



Obama was convincing, but VERY forgetful (being nice) of his Campaign Promises from 2008.
He started insulting and ridiculing Liberals and Progressives since DAY 1.
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
4. Candidate Obama got it while Clinton didn't have a clue. Sadly President Obama quickly forgot
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 03:41 PM
Nov 2015

his promises on Day 1.

"He started insulting and ridiculing Liberals and Progressives since DAY 1." I knew at Rick Warren.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
5. Most people seemed to ahve missed the Pete Petersen dogwhistle in the first debate
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 11:48 PM
Nov 2015

I mean the reference to increasing benefits for lowest income recipients. What this really means is that she intends to cut SocSec for everyone, and put back some of the lost benefits for the lowest quintile. This will give them the same lifetime amounts as before if they are lucky enough to live to be 85.

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