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Hillary is ahead in the polls, true since day #1. But for pete's sake look at these numbers.By Angela Marx
Sunday Nov 22, 2015 6:49 PM EST
Like most weekends here, its a cavalcade of Go! Bernie diaries.
Some data, a lot of hope and guaranteed sniping by SOME of the Hillary supporters who would like Sanders to just give up already. They are #ReadyforHillary to start the big show.
But something stands in the way of that desire.
Its a numbers thing.
What all Sanders supporters must keep in mind, is that those numbers which seem to be so persuasive to the #Ready4Hillary camp arent static. Yes, her numbers continue to lead. But the history of those numbers since they started polling on the race a year ago?
Hillary has had a smallish, but continued downward trend, with what could be either a bounce up since Sept 24th, or a blip upwards (but we wont know which, until at least a couple more polls take place). But still definitely lower than last year at this time.
Sanders, on the other hand, his direction has been upwards since last year this time. Likewise for OMalley, even though his margins are tiny (even compared only to Sanders and not Clinton).
Statistics for the table and graph are taken from the Huffington Post Polling for the Democratic Primary.
(Sorry - there is no way to put up a decent graph. Click the link at the bottom to be able to read it better at the original source.)
DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY POLLING
OCT 2014 - NOV 2015 (LATEST IN each MONTH listed)
MONTH Clinton Sanders OMalley
OCT 12 2014 62.7% 2.7% 1.0%
NOV 23 2014 62.2% 3.1% 0.8%
DEC 9 2014 61.7% 3.3% 0.8%
JAN 27 2015 60.5% 4.1% 1.00%
FEB 23 2015 60.0% 4.7% 1.2%
MARCH 31 2015 61.4% 6.5% 1.6%
APRIL 27 2015 61.6% 8.7% 1.6%
MAY 31 2015 59.7% 12.3% 1.5%
JUNE 29 2015 58.4% 15.9% 1.1%
JULY 30 2015 54.9% 18.0% 1.5%
AUG 30 2015 47.0% 23.4% 1.4%
SEPT 30 2015 44.4% 25.0% 1.1%
OCT 29 2015 53.5% 29.5% 2.0%
NOV 19 2015 55.2% 31.1% 3.0%
NAME START % END % + OR -
CLINTON 62.7 55.2 - 7.5%
SANDERS 2.7 31.1 + 28.4
OMALLEY 1.0 3.0 + 2.0
Those numbers, even though Sanders has made up a lot of ground, still show Hillary Clinton with a pretty commanding double digit lead, right? They also show OMalleys numbers so low that I wonder why he hasnt dropped out yet...
But the trending pattern is quite easy to see in the graph below, showing the past years polling results.
What they show is a trend which I think Sanders supporters see, but Clinton supporters do not.
That Clintons numbers are fairly static, but Sanders are dynamic and growing more as time goes by.
Which makes the only reasonable question: Can Sanders put himself in striking distance in enough states by Super Tuesday?
So far as I can see the answer is maybe, but thats a maybe dependent upon Sanders winning at least one and more likely both New Hampshire and Iowa which could give him the boost to win South Carolina and/or Nevada.
And so long as that word is maybe and not NO, Bernie still has my primary vote.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/22/1453266/-Hillary-is-ahead-in-the-polls-true-since-day-1-But-for-pete-s-sake-look-at-these-numbers
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)How many of Bernie voters have landlines????
She is toast in the Primaries!!! Watch and see!
and mark my post
SamKnause
(13,107 posts)I have a landline.
I don't have a cell phone.
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)SamKnause
(13,107 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)He can and will win!
#FeelTheBern
#Bernie2016
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)these polls, regardless of landlines etc, still focus on only Dem voters.
Bernie is gonna be on fire in early open primary states compared to today's polls.
I have all kinds of shit for sale to anyone that thinks any state is going to be a 30 point blowout.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)T-shirts, bumper stickers and yard signs.
Five to one in many areas for Bernie.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)so early this year? How is the date for Super Tuesday determined, anyway? Anyone know?
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Bernie is AHEAD by 10 points with under 50's polled nationally, but losing 79-14 with those over 50.
Which sort of suggests we don't need complex microtargeting, but simply need to GOTV hardcore with younger people.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Polling is skewed because very few people use landline phones now and that's how they poll. IT'S OBSOLETE. The numbers really are Bogus. IGNORE THEM.
Bernie is going to win, no matter how much TPTB try to convince us he can't.