Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
7 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Enough with the damn red-baiting, already! (Original Post) Fawke Em Nov 2015 OP
Especially here Hydra Nov 2015 #1
Alisa Rosenbaum (Ayn Rand's real name)... gregcrawford Nov 2015 #2
She was in love with a murderer Kalidurga Nov 2015 #3
Yeah, I don't recall his name at the moment... gregcrawford Nov 2015 #4
I don't think the forget at all Kalidurga Nov 2015 #5
The convicted child murderer in question was DAngelo136 Nov 2015 #6
Just one more thing about Ayn Rand DAngelo136 Nov 2015 #7

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
2. Alisa Rosenbaum (Ayn Rand's real name)...
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:57 PM
Nov 2015

... never left. Her malignant influence still ripples over the swamp of malice that spawned the likes of Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, ad nauseam.

I met that evil bitch back in '68, I think it was. My bosses were big Objectivists, so I had to read all her crap, and attend a talk she gave in which she called working people "parasites" more times than I could count, and railed against the evils of altruism. I followed Russ and Bob back stage to watch her harangue and insult everyone within earshot.

Her book, "The Virtue of Selfishness" clinched my contempt for that woman, and it burns even hotter now than it did 47 years ago.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
3. She was in love with a murderer
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:31 PM
Nov 2015

so, what do you expect. She was also vain for no apparent reason. Not to mention she was on the dole I think in her last couple of months. When she died the earth cried, because it knew she would be buried in it soon.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
4. Yeah, I don't recall his name at the moment...
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:42 PM
Nov 2015

... but he raped and dismembered a 12 year-old girl. Lyin' Ryan and his ilk conveniently forget about that when they sing her praises, and the fact that she was an atheist.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
5. I don't think the forget at all
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:06 PM
Nov 2015

There are a whole lot of insincere people in the world. Some of them just don't know which is odd, because well if you admire someone you read up on them, but these are Republicons we are talking about. And there are other's that secretly admire her for all the horrible things she was.

DAngelo136

(265 posts)
6. The convicted child murderer in question was
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:00 AM
Nov 2015

William Edward Hickman. He kidnapped and murdered 12 year old Marion Parker in 1927. He was hanged in 1928 for the murder; Ayn Rand attended his criminal trial as a budding young author and used him as a character study as the hero in her future novels.

She wrote in her diary:"“Other people do not exist for him, and he does not see why they should,” [He] had “no regard whatsoever for all that society holds sacred, and with a consciousness all his own. He has the true, innate psychology of a Superman. He can never realize and feel ‘other people."

And when the State of California hanged him, she also wrote that "“The mob’s murderous desire to revenge its hurt vanity against the man who dared to be alone.”

Don't take my word for it; read all about William Hickman here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Marion_Parker

and Ayn Rand's bizarre fascination about him here:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/8/12/1119294/-Ryan-s-Hero-Ayn-Rand-Worshiped-A-Serial-Killing-Psychopath

and here:
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/01/how-ayn-rand-became-a-big-admirer-of-serial-killer-william-hickman/

Plus the fact that she collected Social Security benefits due to her disability from lung cancer. Seems that she smoked like a chimney; you almost always saw her with a cigarette in her hand. She had claimed that her willpower would not allow her to get cancer. Well, the final scoreboard says: Cancer-1 Ayn Rand-0.

http://www.alternet.org/story/149721/ayn_rand_railed_against_government_benefits,_but_grabbed_social_security_and_medicare_when_she_needed_them

DAngelo136

(265 posts)
7. Just one more thing about Ayn Rand
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:11 AM
Nov 2015

Ayn Rand ultimately was a hypocrite inasmuch as her personal philosophy. If you really want to admire somebody along Libertarian lines, you would be far better off with Rose Wilder Lane, daughter of Laura Ingalls Wilder of "Little House on The Prairie" fame and Isabel Paterson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Wilder_Lane

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabel_Paterson

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Bernie Sanders»Enough with the damn red-...