Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumEven neocons call Clinton a neocon.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/us/politics/historians-critique-of-obama-foreign-policy-is-brought-alive-by-events-in-iraq.html?src=twrhp&_r=1
That would be Robert Kagan, a founder of the neoconservative PNAC.
Why do people keep saying she's strong on foreign policy? She's incredible weak because she's incredibly wrong about nearly everything she's done.
I like Bernie's approach: bring in the region and STOP using our lives and tax dollars to do the region's dirty work.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State Victoria Nuland.
Stirring it up in Ukraine.
forest444
(5,902 posts)Our tax dollars at play.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)don't care or really dig on that fact. Have never heard anyone seriously try to refute this.
Think about the implications of that.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)alleged husband and wife killer team, I'd venture to say that many "dig on" that fact.
DU is pretty scary, itself, tonight.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)It is in fact the neocons and Cold Warriors who made a pact with the Saudis that led to 9/11 and subsequent terrorist attacks including this one, which is apparently inspired or organized by ISIS. Without the neocon regime change operations across MENA, ISIS wouldn' t exist.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)what some are saying over in other sections of DU.
Some are actually going full-out neocon because they believe more of it (not less) will somehow stop terrorism from coming over here. It's like they learned nothing from the fallacy of "fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" rhetoric.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Yes, the founder of PNAC--Robert Kagan--was a foreign-policy advisor to Clinton, during her tenure as Secretary of State.
"Kagan served on Clintons bipartisan foreign policy advisory board when she was Secretary of State, has deep neocon roots."
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-02-18/neoconservative-is-down-but-not-out-of-the-2016-race
Outrageous.
Bernie is the only one who can give us our country back--and our Democratic party too.
These people make me SICK!
It's also worth noting that KAGAN was one of the PNAC signators on the 1998 letter to then-President Bill Clinton. The letter asked him for war in Iraq. In fricking 1998. Don't tell me that Senator Clinton didn't know that the war was a farce when she voted for it. Those bastards asked her husband for the same damn war in 1998.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Kagan, Kissinger and the Bush family. And that doesn't include all her buddies on Wall Street.
I can't believe she has so many supporter on a board dedicated to Democratic principles. Hell, I can't believe the number of progressive politicians who have endorsed her or just assume she's the nominee before any votes have been cast.
This is a frightening election if you're not a 1 percenter.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)But the PTB have definitely determined that they will give us the privilege of getting to vote for her in the general election.
We are free enough to vote for whom they've selected to win the election.
sammythecat
(3,568 posts)on her gender is all I can figure. A man with her record and connections to Wall Street, big business, and 1 percenters wouldn't be a very popular Democrat at all. I'm all for a woman winning the White House, and the sooner the better. It's enormously important that that happens, but please, not with this woman. I used to be a big fan, that all began to change with the IWR. Now, I don't trust her at all. Not even a little bit.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...which is why that I'm grateful that we have Bernie who represents "We The People" instead of these neocon assholes who represent the worst of humanity.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)She actually said the biggest threat to our national security is nuclear weapons/material falling into the hands of terrorist. To me that sounds like she's itching for war.
Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)Nyan
(1,192 posts)That he's not a fan of regime change
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I don't think someone whom neocons like is "more qualified" than the common sense candidate on foreign policy.
I don't think someone beholden to Wall Street is "more qualified" than the common sense candidate on economic policy.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)- Iraq war
- Death penalty
etc.
zalinda
(5,621 posts)she is a twisted person, to be so gleeful at someone's death. It terrifies me that she may be President. I hope to hell she isn't or our country will never be safe. She would bring about WWIII.
Z
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)sammythecat
(3,568 posts)everyone on DU, including Hillary supporters, would have been thoroughly disgusted with the blatant psychopathy.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Of course, she's the only female candidate we have to send to the White House - and that's the prime qualifier - so I guess she's it!
cui bono
(19,926 posts)That's pretty damning. What sort of Democrat would support someone like that?
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Hepburn
(21,054 posts)Real Dems, like FDR Dems, don't support this kind of bullcrap.
JMHO
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Incredibly wrong on foreign policy does not equal strong on foreign policy.
We have already had years of incredible wrong. It didn't work out so well.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=875784
(UNBELIVEABLE) Hillary Clinton laughs about possible war against iran
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)It is totally sick that she is laughing about starting a war with Iran.
With James Baker, a true warmongering neocon!!!!!!
Jesus, it doesn't get any worse than this!!!!!!!!!!
KoKo
(84,711 posts)But then the "Terra, Terra, Be Very Afraid, is back out there these days.
We have to Hope for Real Change.