Bernie Sanders

Robbins

(5,066 posts) Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:02 AM Dec 2015

CLinton supporters are desperate now

they will believe polls like CNN which make no sense.

Clinton leading independents and voters under 50.That goes against facts of the race.under 50 like bernie and she struggles with
independents.other polls which have leads for her overall say this yet now we are suspose to buy this lol

of course when you only poll those with landlines and use likely voter screen you can get these results.

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CLinton supporters are desperate now (Original Post) Robbins Dec 2015 OP

They always have been. The spectre of a 2008 repeat has always hovered over them. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2015 #1

Here is the problem Robbins Dec 2015 #3

The Clinton Campaign is desperate! Cosmic Kitten Dec 2015 #2

Isn't it too ironic - LiberalElite Dec 2015 #9

Poll those with landlines? SmittynMo Dec 2015 #4

Exactly. in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #7

They sure are. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #5

Is that the same CNN that aired the first debate Bernie overwhelmingly won and proceeded to in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #6

So let me get this right..... SmittynMo Dec 2015 #8

I wonder whether it's personal or business. Menshunables Dec 2015 #10

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)

1. They always have been. The spectre of a 2008 repeat has always hovered over them.

Reply to Robbins (Original post)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:05 AM

Dec 2015

Unfortunately for the rest of us, they might just manage to make her the nominee, and guarantee a Republican in the White House.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)

3. Here is the problem

Reply to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:27 AM

Dec 2015

with tactics of DNC her win would have no legitmacy.This isn't the 1990's anymore.

Forcing clinton on us is doing a lot of damage to Democratic party In longrun

Union endorsements for candiate who is hurting unions with support of corporate written free trade deals while many in memberships prefer the real pro-labor candiate

Unions and DNC proving they are just as corrupt as Republicans

liberals and progressives including those who vote against war endorsing the candiate who is pushing party to right and supports
wall street and war.

Ralph Nader is being proven right when he says no difference between 2 partys.Sherrod Brown claimed there isn't much difference between bernie and clinton when he endorsed her.that is complete BS.

Nominate Clinton and you risk all republican government In 2017.

I also dismiss the notion bernie running is pulling her left and has influence on party.once primarys are over if she wins it will all be forgotten.You can't pull Clinton anywhere.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)

2. The Clinton Campaign is desperate!

Reply to Robbins (Original post)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:26 AM

Dec 2015

Hillary has a crisis on her hands.

She's falling back to an insurgent
*fringe candidate*, she makes
gaffs whenever she is off script,
and her money spigot is being
exposed as beholden to the 1%

Back in AUGUST 2015 her campaign
was urging *calm* in the face of
mounting obstacles to *inevitability*

Memo from Clinton campaign to supporters: Don't panic

A memo sent by Hillary Clinton’s campaign to her supporters this week urged them to remain calm, invoking, of all past examples, Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign.

“Winning campaigns have a plan and stick to it, in good times and bad. President Obama endured significant pressure in 2007 to abandon Iowa and ultimately prevailed,” campaign manager Robby Mook wrote in the six-page memo distributed by communications director Jennifer Palmieri to “Interested Parties,” according to the document published by Vox on Wednesday.

The memo comes as Clinton faces softening polling numbers, a summer surge by independent Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, and fresh concerns about to what extent her emails contained classified information. On Tuesday, Clinton agreed to hand over her private computer server and several thumb drives containing thousands of emails to the FBI.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/hillary-clinton-campaign-memo-no-panic-2016-121322

READ The *Don't Freak Out* Memo here

Hillary elites are freaking out. This memo tells them to STOP.
http://www.vox.com/2015/8/12/9144449/clinton-memo-elites-freaking-out

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)

9. Isn't it too ironic -

Reply to Cosmic Kitten (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 10:38 AM

Dec 2015

in that memo telling them not to panic, her campaign manager tells them what Obama did to win.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)

4. Poll those with landlines?

Reply to Robbins (Original post)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:47 AM

Dec 2015

Think about it. A majority of people in the US no longer have land lines. I dropped mine years ago. So how can ANY poll be accurate?

All I can say is be cautious when bragging about polls. They are nothing more than a trend of landline supporters, which account for a very small percentage of REAL voters.

I can't wait for the primaries.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)

7. Exactly.

Reply to SmittynMo (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 10:02 AM

Dec 2015

51.7% of the population don't have or don't use a landline phone. That's over half the population who can't be polled.

87.4% DO use the internet and get all their news and information from online sources. Bernie owns the internet!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)

5. They sure are.

Reply to Robbins (Original post)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:53 AM

Dec 2015

Even coming out with polls that are done by organizations that support her, showing her with a commanding lead. All false when you look at the methodology, which none of her supporters are willing to do.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)

6. Is that the same CNN that aired the first debate Bernie overwhelmingly won and proceeded to

Reply to Robbins (Original post)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 09:57 AM

Dec 2015

Ignore their own focus group that said Bernie won? The same CNN that took down their own CNN/FACEBOOK poll because Bernie won it with 80+% of the votes? The same CNN that refused to acknowledge Bernie's OBVIOUS win in every online poll, on Twitterverse, and in every other focus group conducted by various other networks? CNN exposed themselves that night. They, and every other CORPORATE OWNED poll must be ignored. We know for a fact, they all LIE. We know for a fact, they are all shilling for Clinton. We all know for a fact, their (the talking heads) million dollar paychecks mean more to them than the wellbeing of this country. We know for a fact, every TeeVee network, radio station and newspaper is owned by a CORPORATION which MUST get Clinton elected or their gravy train ends.

If we know all those truths, so does the Clinton camp and all her supporters. A campaign based on lies, half-truths, shilling, Corporate GREED/NEED and BOGUS POLLS - knows they're in trouble.

I don't see he she could possibly win. No one supports her except the 1%. Last time I checked, 99% is more than 1%.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)

8. So let me get this right.....

Reply to Robbins (Original post)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 10:15 AM

Dec 2015

You can't trust the polls. 51% don't own a land line.
You can't trust the MSM. 6 people own all MSM, and are being bought out by the 1%

So who can you trust?

BERNIE SANDERS!!!!

He's the ONLY one you can trust in Washington. PERIOD............

Have a great day.

BTW, I got quite a few more honks from drivers yesterday for proudly displaying my Bernie sticker. Now that makes me happy

Menshunables

(88 posts)

10. I wonder whether it's personal or business.

Reply to Robbins (Original post)

Sat Dec 5, 2015, 05:55 PM

Dec 2015

That kind of jimmy jones commitment has either the heart or the wallet deeply involved.

I guess I'm biased but I haven't come across any Sanders people that act overboard like that and lie and make things up. I know Hillary people don't like anyone bringing up how her 2008 campaign was so awful and how some of the things she says are just awful, but they are not lies like what they do.

I would love for Bernie to make up a story like that sniper thing Hillary did and watch the fun and the over sized hypocrisy at work.

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