The party structure is broken. You'd have to get the money away from the clutches of the DINOS. The brand is practically dead.

Starting a new party might be easier and more effective in the long run, if voters follow.

Man, I hate living in interesting times. Makes my early years feel like heaven.

(up front: I'm Canadian, offering a token opinion, and I know that I can't *be there*)

I think Sanders is telling it straight, and I don't see a dichotomy separating support for Sanders in this Dem primary from continuing to build other social and political structures.

Sanders is filling an opening on the left that is created by the current political situation, where the the Third-Way (under whatever more friendly name) is identical to the triangulated Republican "center", whatever that "center" is. So the term 'centrist' (along with the associated adjective 'moderate'), which Third-Way appropriates as belonging to them, to their faction, is defined by the Republican party, not by them. This is an intolerable state of affairs for many, and it has to be corrected from both within and without.

power in the party. That left the Left with nowhere to go, for a while. And because of the horrors of the Bush years they were willing to 'hold their noses' a lot of the time and vote for Third Way candidates under the impression that even if they were more to the Right than they should be, the Dem Party needed a majority and anyone with a D would make that happen.

Those days are over, Bush is gone, seven years later no War Criminals have been held accountable, no Bankers jailed, SS was 'put on the Deficit Table'. The Surveillance state continues unabated, wars drone on all over the place, extra-judicial assassinations now even of US Citizens are DEFENDED in this party.

I could go on, but reality has set in for many Democrats and the truth is if Bernie had not decided to run, many Dems were ready to just opt out, many have, others have left the Party and are now Registered Independents.

MONEY is the main cause of the corrosion in both parties now.

And if the party thinks that those coming back to the party to vote for Sanders will stay and vote for their candidate should he lose, they are more out of touch with the people than we thought.

Something has to change.

Bernie is right to run as a Dem. If he did not, he would get nowhere.

All I know is people who had all but given up, are now enthusiastic about a candidate. Should we be, remembering all the other times we were disappointed?

I can't answer that until Bernie has been president for at least one year.

then pointing their fingers at their own chests saying "who? me?"

They've been acting like they have no governor.
So they're selling a TPP that looks, from what we've seen of it, exactly as if it were written by Rand Paul.

that we support the current state of the nation or worse.