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blackspade

(10,056 posts)
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:03 PM Dec 2015

So, this is 'interesting'

I voted for my chosen candidate on the DFA website and what do I receive within hours?

Welcome to Democracy for America's official 2016 Presidential Endorsement Poll -- in which you have the power to decide which Democratic candidate DFA will endorse! This week, DFA members will be receiving messages from all three candidates -- Hillary Clinton, Martin O'Malley, and Bernie Sanders -- with each making the case for why they deserve your vote. To level the playing field between the candidates, we're randomizing the daily order in which DFA members receive these emails and sending each candidate's message to an equal number of recipients. Enjoy reading these important messages -- and don't forget to vote and share your vote with your friends! - Eden James, Political Director, Democracy for America

xxxx --

As you make your decision about who Democracy for America will endorse to be our next president, I want to share a few words about my choice: Hillary Clinton.

Hillary Clinton is the candidate who shares our progressive values on issues like climate change, immigration reform, and LGBT rights -- and she has the experience and ability to turn those values into policies that will help Americans. She has spent her entire career fighting for families, from her first job out of law school helping disabled kids at the Children's Defense Fund to her courageous work standing up for women and girls around the world as first lady and Secretary of State.

In the 25 years I've known Hillary, I've learned that she has a work ethic that drives her to persist until the job is done and done right. And she has a record in the Senate of successfully working with both sides of our very combative political spectrum in order to accomplish goals that improve the lives of ordinary Americans. I trust her to do the same as president.

I trust you, too. I know you'll take this decision as seriously as I have, and I hope that Hillary will be your choice. Click here to vote for Hillary in DFA's 2016 Presidential Endorsement Poll now.

That's enough from me -- read on to see what Hillary has to say about why your vote matters to her. Thanks for your commitment to this process, and to our democracy.

- Howard

Gov. Howard Dean, Founder
Democracy for America

------- Forwarded message --------
FROM: Hillary Clinton
SUBJECT: Your vote

xxxx,

I want to thank you for your involvement in Democracy for America, and for taking the time to be thoughtful and engaged in our democracy. I'm excited for all that we're going to accomplish together during the course of this campaign, and I'm really looking forward to all the good we can do if I'm elected president.

I've said before that I'm a progressive who likes to get things done. So I want to talk to you about the things I'd like to accomplish in the White House.

First, I'll work to make sure all Americans are treated fairly -- no matter what you look like, where you live, or who you love. I'm going to fight hard for racial justice in this country: The first speech of my campaign was about ending mass incarceration, and I want to require body cameras for every police force in America. I support a pathway to citizenship for immigrants. I want to make sure everyone earns equal pay -- an issue that disproportionately affects women of color. And I'll work to make sure LGBT Americans finally have equal protection under the law, especially trans Americans, whose needs are too often ignored.

I'm going to raise wages for the middle class. I believe this is the defining challenge of our time. I'm the only Democrat in this race who's pledged not to raise taxes on families making less than $250,000 per year, and I have a comprehensive plan to grow small businesses, make health care and college more affordable, and give employees a chance to share in their companies' profits just like shareholders do.

If you agree that we need to strengthen the middle class, stand with me: Ask DFA to endorse me by casting your vote in their 2016 Presidential Endorsement Poll now.

I'll also work to bring the best of American values -- equality, justice, and innovation -- to tackle our biggest global challenges, whether that's climate change or the Syrian refugee crisis. When I was Secretary of State, I brought leaders to the table on issues like girls' education and LGBT rights in countries where those issues had previously been non-starters -- that's how you make progress. I hope to continue that work as president.

Finally, I want to make sure that my term in office would ensure a strong progressive legacy for decades to come. That means appointing the right judges to the Supreme Court and the federal bench, and it means protecting voting rights and overhauling campaign finance law to ensure that people -- not corporations -- are choosing our leaders. I'm going to get corporate money out of our electoral system, even if that means a Constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United.

We all know I'm not afraid to go after Republicans when I need to, but I'm also not afraid to roll up my sleeves and do the hard work of getting unlikely allies to join coalitions. I did that as first lady when I fought for the Children's Health Insurance Program (which still covers 8 million kids today), as a senator when I got health care for 9/11 first responders, and as Secretary of State when I convened a global coalition to bring sanctions against Iran.

I take a backseat to no one when you look at my record in standing up and fighting for progressive values. The plans I've outlined above aren't rhetoric; they're a concrete outline of what I will do everything in my power to accomplish if I'm elected president.

If you support the bold vision I've outlined above and you're ready for DFA to join Team Hillary, please cast your vote for me in DFA's Presidential Endorsement Poll today.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to earn your support. I promise that if I'm elected, I'll keep working for it every single day I'm in office.

With deep appreciation,

- Hillary


So, I had already voted, but Dean and Clinton are contacting me asking me to change my vote?
So if I had voted for Clinton or O'Malley would I have gotten an e-mail from Sanders?
I sure didn't get one from O'Malley which makes me think that this whole process is rigged.
Typical for the Democratic establishment.
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So, this is 'interesting' (Original Post) blackspade Dec 2015 OP
One thing is interesting HassleCat Dec 2015 #1
unapologetic progressive? Huh? Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #8
You'll get a Sanders email tomorrow and an O'Malley email the day after. jeff47 Dec 2015 #2
Why don't they send the sales pitches to people who didn't vote yet, instead? NT Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #7
My guess is they did send them to people already on their mailing list. jeff47 Dec 2015 #12
Nope. Not so far. blackspade Dec 2015 #17
Must've changed their algorithm with time running out. I got one a day for 3 days. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #25
I'm not getting these emails which means they probably already did something to piss me off corkhead Dec 2015 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #6
Hmm... MondoCane Dec 2015 #4
Welcome to the DU Omaha Steve Dec 2015 #5
Yes it's rigged. passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #9
I agree. senz Dec 2015 #14
It's Dean's group. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #18
Machine Politics PeoViejo Dec 2015 #10
They sent the Clinton email to another DUer, too. Question: Why not send a blurb about all 3 merrily Dec 2015 #11
Very good point. senz Dec 2015 #13
Thank you so much, senz. merrily Dec 2015 #15
That's why I unsubscribed. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #16
When I 1st heard about it Pastiche423 Dec 2015 #19
I got one from O'Malley ibegurpard Dec 2015 #20
I had to vote a 2nd time just to get the confirmation email Bernin4U Dec 2015 #21
I got one from both Dean/Clinton and Sanders after I voted. It probably just has to do with how Chathamization Dec 2015 #22
I got a letter from all three. malokvale77 Dec 2015 #23
Well, the experience seems to be all over the place. blackspade Dec 2015 #24

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
8. unapologetic progressive? Huh?
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 04:49 PM
Dec 2015

If you stuck decals of her wall street corporate puppet masters on her - you'd wouldn't see her at all.

wall street and 'progressive' are mutually exclusive concepts. Let's NOT get into the right-wings ORWELLIAN game here.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
2. You'll get a Sanders email tomorrow and an O'Malley email the day after.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:14 PM
Dec 2015

"Sales pitches" for all three candidates are sent after you vote.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
12. My guess is they did send them to people already on their mailing list.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 06:04 PM
Dec 2015

But if you weren't on the mailing list before, they didn't have your email.

You have to supply your email to vote, so now they have somewhere to send the messages. And they do make it so you can change your vote if one of the messages changes your opinion.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
3. I'm not getting these emails which means they probably already did something to piss me off
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:29 PM
Dec 2015

resulting in an "unsubscribe"

Response to corkhead (Reply #3)

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
9. Yes it's rigged.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:00 PM
Dec 2015

If it wasn't rigged, there never would have been a message from Dean saying Hillary was his choice and he hoped she was your choice too.

Next question.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
18. It's Dean's group.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 07:52 PM
Dec 2015

No matter what the vote is, I suspect they'll pick Clinton since Dean has endorsed her.

(Yes, I know Dean doesn't run it, now, but he started it)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
11. They sent the Clinton email to another DUer, too. Question: Why not send a blurb about all 3
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:51 PM
Dec 2015

candidates to everyone? Emails cost nothing.

Pastiche423

(15,406 posts)
19. When I 1st heard about it
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:13 PM
Dec 2015

I went there and voted for Bernie.

Following that, I received emails from Hillary, MOM and Bernie asking me to vote for them.

I was unsubscribed from DFA prior to my 1st vote.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
20. I got one from O'Malley
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:51 PM
Dec 2015

I followed the link and voted for Bernie. Guess they recorded it because I haven't gotten any emails from Hillary OR Bernie about it.

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
21. I had to vote a 2nd time just to get the confirmation email
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:06 PM
Dec 2015

Have heard about the "after the fact" pitches going out from all 3 candidates, but so far have only rec'd a couple emails requesting me to sign up others to vote on there.

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
22. I got one from both Dean/Clinton and Sanders after I voted. It probably just has to do with how
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:50 PM
Dec 2015

their lists work. Not surprising that Dean supports Clinton, but DFA tends to be more liberal than Dean and is very much a bottom up and not a top down organization. Worth noting that Howard Dean was encouraging people to support Clinton at the same time Jim Dean (who heads the national DFA) was working on a campaign to get Elizabeth Warren to run.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
23. I got a letter from all three.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:58 PM
Dec 2015

Dean asking me to reconsider and vote for Hillary. Not a chance in hell.

O'Malley asking me to consider him. Sorry, my heart belongs to Bernie.

Bernie thanking me for my vote and asking me to spread the word. Will do.

Go Bernie.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
24. Well, the experience seems to be all over the place.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:13 AM
Dec 2015

It seemed a little weird, but I guess this is one of those cases where the 'oddity' really is just odd.

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