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TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
Sun May 24, 2015, 08:07 PM May 2015

What we are up against is the way many people define socialism.

The following is a quote from 1916: A Novel of the Irish Rebellion 1998 by Morgan Llwelyn. The character Mary is a good looking young woman who is really into clothes and appearance. Ned finds here very attractive even though he is very political and Mary is not. James Connolly is an historic person who was an Irish socialist labor organizer. Now read how Mary describes Connolly and replace it with Bernie Sanders and Mary with any unthinking person in your circle of acquaintances. This is how a whole lot of unthinking people see socialism.


"Connolly's nothing but a socialist," Mary said petulantly. "My mother says socialists want to take the money away from everyone how has any. I think that''s stupid. Where would the jobs come from if there were no rich people anymore? We would all be dreadfully poor then, and no one would have any nice things."

Ned couldn't help laughing, "I don't think you've quite grasped the principles of socialism, Mary."

(She replied), "I don't care. It's tiresome."

To Ned's surprise, Eliza (Mary's friend) said, "That's the trouble with you, Mary Cosgrave. You aren't interested in ideas, only in things."

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
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What we are up against is the way many people define socialism. (Original Post) TexasProgresive May 2015 OP
Have them read ' Brave New World ' and ask them to define orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #1
It is hard to educate the willfully ignorant TexasProgresive May 2015 #2
That's why it took Mucho courage for Bernie top go on Fox . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #6
We've been indoctrinated against socialism since grade school. xfundy May 2015 #3
Agreed. SoapBox May 2015 #5
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast May 2015 #4
Oh, yes, the GOP - and the supporters of other Dem candidates - will be flinging "Socialist" around djean111 May 2015 #7
The best part of US government is socialistic RobertEarl May 2015 #8

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
2. It is hard to educate the willfully ignorant
Sun May 24, 2015, 08:31 PM
May 2015

The response you get is along the lines of, "I don't care. It's tiresome."

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
3. We've been indoctrinated against socialism since grade school.
Sun May 24, 2015, 09:08 PM
May 2015

Even though socialist countries are doing fine, our collective kneejerk action is to be against them because the reptilian parts of our brains throws up a red flag.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
7. Oh, yes, the GOP - and the supporters of other Dem candidates - will be flinging "Socialist" around
Mon May 25, 2015, 10:38 AM
May 2015

quite a lot. Another fun thing - picking a narrow and dated definition of "Populism" and pretending that is what it means today.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
8. The best part of US government is socialistic
Mon May 25, 2015, 06:00 PM
May 2015

All the public works, the national parks and other public lands, libraries, freeways, public schools. The list is long and is what makes our country such a great place to live.

Bernie, as a democratic socialist, will make sure our government continues and improves upon the best parts of government.

He will have the Green vote, the education vote, the anti-war vote ... the parent votes, the better government vote.... the list is long and getting longer everyday.

Stand up for socialism... it's what's good for you!

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