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DavidDvorkin

(19,480 posts)
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:52 PM Oct 2015

I'm feeling pessimistic about the upcoming debate

Not the debate itself, really, but the aftermath.

In past years, it's generally been the case that the public's perception of who won a candidates' debate -- and therefore who benefited in the aftermath -- wasn't a function of who actually did the best job during the debate but rather who the media, over the next few days, said won the debate.

We've seen how the media are managing to make O'Malley invisible. I'm afraid that even if he dominates the stage on Tuesday evening, in the days that follow, the media will annoint one of the other candidates as the winner, and that candidate will benefit in the polls. And therefore O'Malley won't.

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I'm feeling pessimistic about the upcoming debate (Original Post) DavidDvorkin Oct 2015 OP
Same here. Not just for O"Malley but for any Progressive ideology at all. Auggie Oct 2015 #1
The media tried that bullshit with the 2008 between Obama and Hillary. askew Oct 2015 #2
I'm not JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #3
+1. Except his daughter will have to throw it. As a Judge, his wife is barred from campaign events FSogol Oct 2015 #4
I am feeling pretty good about tonite! Raine1967 Oct 2015 #5
I hope the optimists are right and I'm wrong DavidDvorkin Oct 2015 #6
Right! elleng Oct 2015 #7

Auggie

(31,174 posts)
1. Same here. Not just for O"Malley but for any Progressive ideology at all.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 05:04 PM
Oct 2015

I expect it'll get smothered in bullshit

askew

(1,464 posts)
2. The media tried that bullshit with the 2008 between Obama and Hillary.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:23 PM
Oct 2015

Media gave every debate win to Hillary and the public thought Obama won. What happened afterwards was a huge increase of donations and rising poll #s for Obama. Media was forced to backtrack on Hillary won nonsense.

Media is in rescue Hillary mode in the past few days so I expect they'll spin this for Hillary and say O'Malley didn't do enough, etc. But, I expect O'Malley to rise in Iowa polls and to get an increase in donations.

I am more worried for the bad news about O'Malley's 3rd quarter donations. He is one of the only few who hasn't released them yet. I am guessing they are awful and they are due to be released right after the debate so that may slow his momentum.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
3. I'm not
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 04:42 AM
Oct 2015

O'Malley has nothing to lose.

He can have his wife throw him his guitar onto the stage and start singing and that would be fine with me.


Much hair pulling and teeth gnashing will ensue. I will have a happy.

FSogol

(45,493 posts)
4. +1. Except his daughter will have to throw it. As a Judge, his wife is barred from campaign events
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:49 PM
Oct 2015

O'Malley will do great and the other camps will have to spin that he didn't.

DavidDvorkin

(19,480 posts)
6. I hope the optimists are right and I'm wrong
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 05:23 PM
Oct 2015

The one good thing about being pessimistic by nature is that the surprises are more likely to pleasant than unpleasant.

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