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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:38 PM May 2015

gathering info. do i have this right?

ass st attr for 2 yrs, to 90

city council 91-99

mayor 99-'07

gov '07-15

good stuff

two term gov?

and why did he not run again?

i just know nothing about this man and just learning.

he plays the guitar.

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gathering info. do i have this right? (Original Post) seabeyond May 2015 OP
oh, and i could probably google stuff on his, but.... seabeyond May 2015 #1
No. His father, Thomas O'Malley, however, served as a bombardier in the U.S. Army Air Force elleng May 2015 #3
excellent stuff. thank you so much. ya, this stuff. seabeyond May 2015 #4
And (I learned this today!) His mother Barbara Flew in the Civil Air patrol Raine1967 May 2015 #7
Yes, a GREAT part of the story! elleng May 2015 #8
too cool. a kick ass mom, is always wonderful to see in a grown man. lol. nt seabeyond May 2015 #10
Yes, pretty much correct. elleng May 2015 #2
ok. that was my question. made it well all thru the terms, and didnt get kicked out, lol. seabeyond May 2015 #5
Gov O'Malley was term limited. Raine1967 May 2015 #6
and, don't forget, his MOTHER's been working for Senator Mikulski for YEARS! elleng May 2015 #9
Yes! Raine1967 May 2015 #13
all right. sorry all, but i gotta say, from a feminist position, this is all good. seabeyond May 2015 #14
excellent. i LOVE back stories. thank you very much. wonderful stuff. nt seabeyond May 2015 #12
I am like seabeyond. brer cat May 2015 #11
ya. i heard something about a problem during the baltimore time, and maybe something seabeyond May 2015 #15
He went to Baltimore during the riots VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #17
By some, but not all. Raine1967 May 2015 #18
In fact he was quite well received. elleng May 2015 #19
Ah, there it is. Raine1967 May 2015 #20
You, my dear, are quite welcome! elleng May 2015 #21
please do. i would like to hear different perspective on this. seabeyond May 2015 #22
Rewriting history or just parroting Michael Steele? FSogol May 2015 #28
"i do not have to have perfect." brer cat May 2015 #23
+1 n/t FSogol May 2015 #30
Welcome Brer! Raine1967 May 2015 #16
Thank you, Raine. brer cat May 2015 #24
He's made a career of public service JustAnotherGen May 2015 #25
Hi seabeyond and brer cat! Koinos May 2015 #26
If you read the whole Dave Simon interview, he admits he would still vote for O'Malley. FSogol May 2015 #27
Yep, he still respects O'Malley. Koinos May 2015 #29
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
1. oh, and i could probably google stuff on his, but....
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:39 PM
May 2015

doesnt hurt to have a get to know the man, for others that know nothing about him

was he in military? do i remember that correctly?

elleng

(131,108 posts)
3. No. His father, Thomas O'Malley, however, served as a bombardier in the U.S. Army Air Force
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:46 PM
May 2015

in the Pacific theater during the Second World War, and said he witnessed the mushroom cloud rise over Hiroshima while on a routine mission.[5] Thomas later became a Montgomery County-based criminal defense lawyer, and an assistant United States Attorney for the District of Columbia. O'Malley is of Irish, German and Dutch descent.[8][9] He is a descendant of a War of 1812 veteran, and is an active member of the General Society of the War of 1812.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
7. And (I learned this today!) His mother Barbara Flew in the Civil Air patrol
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:01 PM
May 2015

at the age of 17!

That is amazing!

elleng

(131,108 posts)
2. Yes, pretty much correct.
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:40 PM
May 2015

Maryland, like other states, has term limits for governors; he was not permitted to run for a third term.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
5. ok. that was my question. made it well all thru the terms, and didnt get kicked out, lol.
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:48 PM
May 2015

you know, palin made it thru half. we gotta know this stuff. thanks.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
6. Gov O'Malley was term limited.
Sat May 30, 2015, 09:57 PM
May 2015

In Maryland, a governor can only serve two 4 year terms.

Other things, he worked in getting Senator Mikulski elected. While he was in LAw SChool, he worked as her State filed director for her first primary campaign. He was also her director for her general election, which we all know by now, she won!

He worked for her office for two years after that, before deciding to return to Baltimore.

Before all that, he worked for Gary Hart.

Glad to see you here and willing to learn more about him, seabeyond. Click on the links, you will find a lot of good stuff.



Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
13. Yes!
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:11 PM
May 2015
I forgot to mention that.

Bottom line is that this family is such an American success story — O'Malley wants to make sure he has the very same opportunities he was given for everyone else.
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
14. all right. sorry all, but i gotta say, from a feminist position, this is all good.
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:11 PM
May 2015

as most know, that is my thing. thank you

brer cat

(24,606 posts)
11. I am like seabeyond.
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:10 PM
May 2015

I will be dropping by to learn more about O'Malley. Everything I have heard so far is very positive.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
15. ya. i heard something about a problem during the baltimore time, and maybe something
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:13 PM
May 2015

with him implementing as mayor? or gov? ...

it will be something we will have to touch on, so we understand what that is all about, to be able to address later, i am sure. but i do not know what is true or not, and if it was in animosity or even what it was about.

that is the only bad thing i have heard.

all good from what i have seen.

and i do not have to have perfect. not gonna happen for any of us.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
18. By some, but not all.
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:24 PM
May 2015

He returned from a trip in Europe specifically to came back to Baltimore. I think that was the right thing to do.

You know, he didn't have to return, right?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
22. please do. i would like to hear different perspective on this.
Sun May 31, 2015, 02:18 AM
May 2015

read it all. havent really come to any conclusions. need feedback on it.

FSogol

(45,526 posts)
28. Rewriting history or just parroting Michael Steele?
Sun May 31, 2015, 12:43 PM
May 2015

An occasional heckler is hardly not being received well. O'Malley was last Mayor of Baltimore over 8 years ago. He could have stayed away.

brer cat

(24,606 posts)
23. "i do not have to have perfect."
Sun May 31, 2015, 08:42 AM
May 2015

I wish more people would develop that realism, sea. All candidates have flaws of some sort; none will have exactly the priorities and stand on issues that we have individually. We compromise where we are comfortable doing so.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
16. Welcome Brer!
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:14 PM
May 2015

Like I suggested to sea, take a look around, we have a bunch of links.

I think once people get to know him more, the more they will like the man.

brer cat

(24,606 posts)
24. Thank you, Raine.
Sun May 31, 2015, 09:04 AM
May 2015

I feel comfortable here. GD is impossible these days, and it is not a learning environment. Hillary and Bernie are both good people and good candidates. I am not settled on a candidate, and I want to learn more, especially about O'Malley.

JustAnotherGen

(31,896 posts)
25. He's made a career of public service
Sun May 31, 2015, 09:53 AM
May 2015

All of it is true.

If he earns the nomination - the Republicans will be snide about it.

Our response - You guys said being a Mayor made one eligible to conduct foreign policy in 2008 - what's changed since then?

His resume is solid.

And not a single one can with the exception of Pataki can touch the Baltimore issue without being called a hypocrite. And then, Pataki has to address why he allowed Guiliani to get away with ten kinds of murder in NYC.

I'm looking beyond the primary at this point. The three who declared have to "lose" for me to not uplift the candidates strengths.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
26. Hi seabeyond and brer cat!
Sun May 31, 2015, 10:09 AM
May 2015

Reducing crime in Baltimore was a huge challenge. O'Malley's administration used "zero tolerance" to get drug dealers off street corners and away from people's front yards. Baltimore was successful in reducing violent crime and brought down the murder rate. These methods made some people angry, and many were falsely arrested. But Baltimore was a very special case, and citizens feared for their lives. Baltimore was a hard nut to crack, and O'Malley did his best to make the city safer. He couldn't work miracles. Poverty was rampant in many areas of the city. Industry was moving to China and Korea. Black and Decker, a major tool manufacturer and a landmark for jobs in Baltimore, was outsourced to the Far East. There were hundreds of companies that abandoned Baltimore. O'Malley did his best with what he had. Sometimes the methods were harsh, but the streets were safer for African American families. He also had a system set up for communities to respond to what was being done, and he monitored police activity. I don't think even those who criticized his methods would like to go back to the pre-O'Malley days in Baltimore. Many neighborhoods were dangerous places to live. They still are, to this day; but what happens now is on the present mayor's watch, not O'Malley's. And the problem of police brutality, as we see it all over the country, was not "caused" by O'Malley. The same issues of police training -- in particular the militarization of police -- are a problem in many of our major cities. O'Malley's experience with what worked and what did not work is an important contribution to the present debate in this country. When he was reelected mayor, O'Malley received over 80% of the vote in Baltimore City. I look forward to his candid remarks on this and many issues.

There is some confusion about a TV show called "The Wire," where the lead character is often mistaken for O'Malley. David Simon did use O'Malley, but he also used other political figures to create the character of Tommy Carcetti. Oftentimes, TV watchers (and TV programmers) fall into the trap of confusing fact with fiction. I would not recommend watching the series to learn more about the real O'Malley. David Simon overdid (dramatized) more than a few things in his depiction of Baltimore, and O'Malley was not pleased with that. O'Malley did and still does love Baltimore, despite its problems.

FSogol

(45,526 posts)
27. If you read the whole Dave Simon interview, he admits he would still vote for O'Malley.
Sun May 31, 2015, 12:41 PM
May 2015

How about that? His biggest critic still supports him.

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