Democratic Primaries
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Joe Biden is running for president with a strategy that failed Hillary Clinton in 2016: taking on Donald Trump as a morally unfit president who sympathizes with bigots and racists. He has said that his campaign is a fight to reclaim the soul of America, ...
Folks, look, the fact of the matter is that our core values, our standing in the world, our very democracy, everything that has made America America is literally at stake and thats not hyperbole, Biden said ...
Limit it to four years, and this administration is going to go down in history as an aberrant moment in time.
But eight years eight years youll see some fundamental changes in who we are as a country.
A CNN poll taken in the days after his announcement showed him padding what already was a frontrunners lead. Hes also earned extensive news coverage by calling out Trump, something many of his primary rivals have been reluctant to do, focusing instead on policy issues.
Teri Goodman, a Democratic activist and longtime Biden ally in Dubuque, Iowa:
Ive had two people and I think this is interesting come up to me and say that for the first time since the election of the current president, they feel safe, she said. Biden, she added, is reassuring people that were still OK, that we can be OK again.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/henrygomez/joe-biden-2020-trump-hillary-clinton
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)That word is key in this whole thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)that revolves around the word again. Pete Buttigieg.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Renew Deal
(81,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)I can't think of time that Washington seemed to be working "normally" in any sense since the early Clinton years, before Ken Starr sunk his teeth into him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)of all the qualities that VP Biden brings to the race, its this one that scares Spanky.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)because he makes her feel safe. This is a woman who voted for Trump thinking he would be a "strong leader" on the world stage and now she realizes we are in more peril than ever because of this moron.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,869 posts)the true extent of his deplorableness was not yet known. He was seen as a clown and a joke - a terrible person, for sure, but he seemed so unlikely to win. And when he did, what he has done, and continues to do, has been repeatedly described as "unprecedented." As bad as he seemed, he's turned out to be much worse. Hillary's criticism of Trump didn't work because not enough people were scared of him then because of course he wasn't going to win. But he did, and now we're scared, as we should be.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JustAnotherGen
(31,907 posts)Now 45 has to run on its' own behavior, actions, executive orders, and legislation that 45 has signed off on.
I'll go back to op for my second thought - but suffice to say - the landscape is a bit different than in 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)I'm not sure why some people want to reinvent how she campaigned as a whole but I'm certain there is a reason.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,842 posts)Hillary bashing is at the top of the list. Yes, she did have an extremely progressive platform, the most progressive in decades.
But, but . . . her emails! Benghazi! Pizza shop pedophile rings!
Everything was drowned out by the smear campaign against her, be it the press, the Trumpy's, and/or the deranged.
As for Biden making voters feeling 'safe?' You can substitute the word 'hopeful' in those expressions--hopeful that we can get back to normal and go from there; hopeful that we can harness our better angels and make the country work for everyone, not a select few; hopeful that America's best years are before us, not behind.
Joe Biden is speaking to these concerns and voters are listening.
A Go for Joe!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ace Rothstein
(3,186 posts)Most people aren't watching cable news 24/7 or you aren't getting much out of a 2 minutes clip on the network news.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JustAnotherGen
(31,907 posts)Can run on morality. Any single one of them.
And what's different than in 2016?
2018. I'm in the middle of a two year term as an elected democratic committee member role. In my district - until last November? We had a GOP congressman for 38 years.
38 years.
Even in rich white GOP north east districts - we flipped it. . . after 38 years.
And those same women when faced with Biden and Trump are going to turn right around and vote for the non racist, non child caging, non Russian loving, non Saudi loving, non war loving, person who will protect their health insurance coverage and the environment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)His opponents, Harris, Beto, Mayor Pete, Booker, Swalwell, Klobuchar, Hickenlooper, Inslee truly respect and adore him. Together they will unite the party no matter who wins. I am 100% positive that Biden would campaign for any of them if they were to win the primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)...the strategy actually was working extremely well up until the initial Comey Letter dropped and then all bets were off. From a stretch between the end of the Democratic Convention, and the Comey Letter, almost universally the focus was on Trump's behavior and it killed his overall numbers. To be fair, the race was tighter than it should have been, but that was less Clinton's message and more Clinton's own perceived issues with likability. But from September through to the end of October, the narrative was all about Trump - Trump's fighting with the Kahn Family, the Access Hollywood tapes, the erratic debate performance. But things shifted that final week of the campaign. At the most pivotal point, the narrative went back to Hillary's e-mails. Trump was relegated to the background and, believe it or not, that boosted him extensively. He wasn't the focal point of the campaign anymore - Hillary was. And that allowed Americans to ease on him just a bit. Enough, at least, for him to pull ahead in some of the key battle ground states that were narrower but thought to be safe Hillary states (PA, WI, MI).
Hillary's campaign was most effective when the focus was on Trump. That's not debatable. Look at the polls. When the race veered away from his actions, her numbers dropped - either from the initial e-mails investigation, the slow drip of the leaked DNC e-mails or the Comey Letter (and its subsequent rebuttal). If the Democrats are going to win in 2020, they'll have to focus again on Trump. If it's a policy oriented debate only, what that does is it legitimizes and excuses away his behavior and pacifies the electorate on it so we again draw partisan lines in the sand. That's not to say policy shouldn't be there, as I believe the Democrats have a winning issue on healthcare, but it can't be the only thing - especially if the economy is at the level it is today because then that debate FAVORS Trump.
This narrative that Hillary somehow lost 2016 because focused too much on Trump as morally unfit is unquestionably bad.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)It was the focus on her emails, her husband, speeches, on and on ad nauseum that took her down. People fell for it.
Trump is a fucking creep.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)The fact that Biden wants to make Trump deplorable and is going directly after Trump himself is one of the things that I like the most about Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)that Biden can recall, so say seventy years, had a president who openly made the case for Nazis or Nazi revivalists.
Trump, who embraces the worst angels of our nature, must be reviled,often, publicly, as a center piece of any Dem campaign.
Politics and policy be damned.
That this presidency is itself a platform for hate, while it credits and normalizes the growing number of radicalized haters, should be our top concern.
Whether that works or not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)according to Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
Safety is important. According to Maslow, the other needs that are more fundamental than safety are those that we need to survive (food, water, warmth, etc.).
Democratic policies address each of these things.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MH1
(17,608 posts)Her problem was she broadbrushed his supporters - some of whom may have only been tepid supporters at that point - as "deplorables".
Clearly Hillary would have been a decent President - far far better than the rump - but the "deplorables" comment was a FAIL, and mainly because it wasn't calling Trump deplorable.
Biden is fine to want "to make Trump deplorable". As long as that epithet is about TRUMP, and not the voters. And realize that it is not "again", because Hillary failed to do that in 2016 by attacking Trump prospective voters, not Trump himself.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden