Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhat is Bernie Asking of those to whom he wants to give so much?
Bernie is very much an us vs them style populist, it seems. Take from THEM ... mostly the rich. Give to US... the poor, the middle class, workers, students...
Is anything asked OF those to whom so much is to be given?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Vote for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
in each tranche and in series of donations?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CrossingTheRubicon
(731 posts)Your question nails the problem with populism. The whole premise is built on fueling anger and rationalizing that we are going to take from them.
But never a word about what contributions the populists are going to make to a better future.
It is JFK ask not turned on its head.
Populism isnt compatible with liberalism.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)Have always thought it was politics for dummies myself. Always seems to appeal to the least educated among us, and those people arent always Republicans
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,771 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,090 posts)1% and corporations. What is wrong with a government giving to the poor, the middle class, workers, and students?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
kennetha
(3,666 posts)What are the poor, the middle class, workers, and students asked to give back in return? Is it really all get but no give? That's not my vision of how a cooperative democratic society should work.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Nanjeanne
(4,960 posts)their families? Have they not already sacrificed at the expense of the uber rich. Just check where wealth has gone over the last 40+ years.
He asks them to stay involved in government. To hold government accountable. To run for office.
Not sure what else you are think they should do.
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Autumn
(45,090 posts)work for the people. YMOV.
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wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)and insure a fair playing field not give to you,
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Autumn
(45,090 posts)nothing in taxes and getting millions back in a refund while I write a check and pay my share of taxes? You know, like Trump did? Among others.
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wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)Except FAIR playing field
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Autumn
(45,090 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,262 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
OhZone
(3,212 posts)some ego massaging adulation?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KayF
(1,345 posts)that's not a Bernie innovation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)They're already doing their part creating wealth. The whole point is those of us creating wealth through our labors are living lives below the value of the wealth we create.
There are some very disturbing responses in this thread. Shameful.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
kennetha
(3,666 posts)That's a sincere question.
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not getting a hide
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lapucelle
(18,262 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)Our labors are enriching very few when they should be enriching all. When wealth was distributed better we had a thriving/growing middle class. We invested in infrastructure. Now it's like pulling teeth to get the money needed to educate our children properly, take care of our elderly. Once upon a time our middle class had savings they could live on for at least 5 years if catastrophe hit, now if you miss one paycheck you're screwed.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CrossingTheRubicon
(731 posts)His was mostly a lifetime of work avoidance.
And the work he did (world's worst carpenter, world's worst fiction writer, world's worst documentary filmmaker) were done poorly, by his own admission and by those who knew him.
His record deserves to be vetted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,090 posts)said that Bernie Sanders helped create wealth for that matter.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Nanjeanne
(4,960 posts)Damn him - like many he searched for a passion and discovered it late in life . . . and became Mayor of Burlington at the very old age of 39.
I'm off to vote for Harrison Ford - wasn't he a really really really wonderful carpenter before he became an actor?
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Uncle Joe
(58,363 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)n/t
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Autumn
(45,090 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,262 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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dogman
(6,073 posts)A social society.
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Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)something that changed my mind on taxes. I used to be like Republicans think when it came to taxes. Now I understand better.
Taxes are the price you pay for a civilized society. We as a country need to enlighten our fellow citizens on what civilized looks like.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)A little story:
I was once fired from a job because my employer didn't like a response to a statement he made. In a meeting he told us we should be grateful to have a job that gave us benefits. I told him in no uncertain terms he didn't give us anything, we worked for it. That when each of us came to be employed there the interview was a 2 way street. And one of the reasons we all agreed to make money (create wealth) for the company was the benefits that were offered in the pay package. Those benefits are part of the reimbursement for our labors.
Over the years our labors have been reaping less and less pay and benefits even though productivity has risen and wealth has grown. The wealth has been concentrating at the top. Over the years those who have accrued the most wealth have bought (through lobbying) the government so as to keep that wealth.
Our country suffers, our countrymen suffers. Bernie's not giving anything, he wants to make sure we get what we've earned.
P.S. Didn't care about getting fired, was handing in my resignation within a month to move to a different part of the country anyways. Just gave me a month off to ready for the move and spend time with loved ones. win, win
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided