Democratic Primaries

Uncle Joe

(58,421 posts) Tue May 7, 2019, 09:59 PM May 2019

The making of Bernie Sanders: How a hitchhiking campaigner pushed a vision that remains

remarkably unchanged

(snip)

In the 1970s, Bernie Sanders, then in his 30s, ran -- over and over again in Vermont -- and lost repeatedly, never cracking double digits. In a series of quixotic bids at statewide office as a member of the self-described "radical" Liberty Union Party, he railed against corporate titans and promised to eliminate laws regulating drugs, homosexuality and, before the Supreme Court stepped in, abortion.

He campaigned in a local prison and spoke forcefully about racial disparities in the criminal justice system. The government, he said during a talk about desegregation busing, "doesn't give a sh** about black people."

Unlike so many other public figures with long careers or winding arcs, Sanders did not arrive at this moment of national reckoning through a personal or political "evolution." He broke through, instead, with an uncompromising, insistent vision of radical upheaval -- and a taste for conflict with the forces determined to keep him on the fringes.

(snip)

"I came away from these Wallace interviews with two basic feelings. First, that democracy in America (in any sense of the word) just might not make it," Sanders wrote. "My mind flashed to scenes of Germany in the late 1920's. Confusion, rebellion, frustration, economic instability, a wounded national pride, ineffectual political leadership -- and the desire for a strong man who would do something, who would bring order out of the chaos."

(snip)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/07/politics/kfile-bernie-sanders-vermont-1970s/index.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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The making of Bernie Sanders: How a hitchhiking campaigner pushed a vision that remains (Original Post) Uncle Joe May 2019 OP

You have "snip", "snip", but no link. Is this from the Vermont Freeman, for which he wrote.... George II May 2019 #1

Thanks for the heads up George, Uncle Joe May 2019 #2

I don't believe that I want someone as president with "a taste for conflict" TexasTowelie May 2019 #3

Do you prefer someone that doesn't going against Trump? Uncle Joe May 2019 #4

Reread my post and you will have your answer. nt TexasTowelie May 2019 #5

And you're suggesting Bernie would start a nuclear war!? Uncle Joe May 2019 #6

Any fair reading of that article splains the essence of who Bernie is and why he's such a superstar. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #8

I didn't read the article, just the snips presented in the OP, so blame the author of the OP for the TexasTowelie May 2019 #11

"Superstar" ehrnst May 2019 #18

That's complete crap--I did not make that suggestion. TexasTowelie May 2019 #10

That's status quo for Uncle Joe. ehrnst May 2019 #16

Speak for yourself. You're the only one suggesting this. ehrnst May 2019 #15

"doesn't going against Trump?" ehrnst May 2019 #14

We have seen the "taste for conflict" NYMinute May 2019 #7

Uncle Joe, you are a good man. uawchild May 2019 #9

I disagree. See post #6 for the bait. nt TexasTowelie May 2019 #12

Oh thanks MyNameGoesHere May 2019 #13

Wasn't he living on a kibbutz in Israel and then a commune in Vermont in the 1970s? George II May 2019 #17

George II

(67,782 posts)

1. You have "snip", "snip", but no link. Is this from the Vermont Freeman, for which he wrote....

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Tue May 7, 2019, 10:24 PM

May 2019

....essays right around the same time period (1970s)?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Uncle Joe

(58,421 posts)

2. Thanks for the heads up George,

Reply to George II (Reply #1)

Tue May 7, 2019, 10:28 PM

May 2019

I have added the link.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

TexasTowelie

(112,434 posts)

3. I don't believe that I want someone as president with "a taste for conflict"

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Tue May 7, 2019, 10:51 PM

May 2019

making the choice as to whether to push the button. That type of power should be used judiciously and with the wisdom of Solomon.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Uncle Joe

(58,421 posts)

4. Do you prefer someone that doesn't going against Trump?

Reply to TexasTowelie (Reply #3)

Tue May 7, 2019, 10:56 PM

May 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

TexasTowelie

(112,434 posts)

5. Reread my post and you will have your answer. nt

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #4)

Tue May 7, 2019, 11:02 PM

May 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Uncle Joe

(58,421 posts)

6. And you're suggesting Bernie would start a nuclear war!?

Reply to TexasTowelie (Reply #5)

Tue May 7, 2019, 11:07 PM

May 2019

You know good well the context of that article, that's pretty sad.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,123 posts)

8. Any fair reading of that article splains the essence of who Bernie is and why he's such a superstar.

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #6)

Wed May 8, 2019, 12:06 AM

May 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

TexasTowelie

(112,434 posts)

11. I didn't read the article, just the snips presented in the OP, so blame the author of the OP for the

Reply to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #8)

Wed May 8, 2019, 04:57 AM

May 2019

selective editing. Those excerpts lead me to believe that Bernie is confrontational and impulsive. Those are not qualities that I desire in a president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

18. "Superstar"

Reply to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #8)

Wed May 8, 2019, 09:43 AM

May 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

TexasTowelie

(112,434 posts)

10. That's complete crap--I did not make that suggestion.

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #6)

Wed May 8, 2019, 04:54 AM

May 2019

Quit adding your guesses to my statements.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

16. That's status quo for Uncle Joe.

Reply to TexasTowelie (Reply #10)

Wed May 8, 2019, 09:17 AM

May 2019

Sets up a strawman, and wants you to defend it.

It's much simpler than admitting that one has no valid response.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

15. Speak for yourself. You're the only one suggesting this.

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #6)

Wed May 8, 2019, 09:13 AM

May 2019

That's pretty sad.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)

14. "doesn't going against Trump?"

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #4)

Wed May 8, 2019, 09:11 AM

May 2019

What Democratic Candidate would that be?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)

7. We have seen the "taste for conflict"

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Tue May 7, 2019, 11:34 PM

May 2019

and the result is Trump. No thanks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

uawchild

(2,208 posts)

9. Uncle Joe, you are a good man.

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Wed May 8, 2019, 12:44 AM

May 2019

Uncle Joe, I only really know you from your posting history that I have been watching over the last two weeks, but let me say you are a good man (pardon me assuming gender there) and DU could use more like you.

I have never seen you be snide or sarcastic to anyone in your posts or replies. You never bait other posters, you never try to twist or misconstrue their words. In that regard you are a better person than me and many many other posters I have read.

Sorry for sounding so sappy here, but it seemed a pertinent time to make this post.

While I don't support your candidate because of his age, I do admire the courage of his convictions and I do feel that you personally represent the best of what DU is supposed to be about.

Thank you for your efforts here to inform us of issues that speak to your concerns.

Best Regards.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided