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madville

(7,410 posts)
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 07:17 PM Mar 2019

South Carolina Democratic Presidential Primary Poll - 02 March 2019 - Biden 37/Sanders 21/Harris 9

Biden 37, Sanders 21, Harris 9, Booker 6, Warren 5, O'Rourke 5, Gillibrand 3, Bloomberg 2, Gabbard 2, Klobuchar 1, Brown 1, Castro 0

This is the first one I have seen out of South Carolina since most people announced. Biden also does the best against Trump at only -4 in South Carolina, that's pretty amazing. The rest of the matches are here, also bad news for Graham in the data:

https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/south-carolina-2020-poll-biden-leads-primary-field-by-wide-margin-president-trump-popular-with-base

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South Carolina Democratic Presidential Primary Poll - 02 March 2019 - Biden 37/Sanders 21/Harris 9 (Original Post) madville Mar 2019 OP
K&R Scurrilous Mar 2019 #1
But I thought the South didn't like Bernie. vsrazdem Mar 2019 #2
He lost 10% of his support from 2012 dsc Mar 2019 #3
Remind me again how many southern states he won in 2016? BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #4
I wouldn't say being in second place out of a field of 6 polled is getting crushed, but keep trying. vsrazdem Mar 2019 #6
How many southern states did he win in 2016? BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #7
Probably the same amount Hillary won in the General vsrazdem Mar 2019 #8
If that's your way of saying the Deep South doesn't matter, Bernie tried that in 2016. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #9
Except we're not talking about Hillary or the general election. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #10
Why are we talking about 2016. That race is over and done. Just because you don't like Bernie vsrazdem Mar 2019 #11
Because this is a discussion board BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #12
Bernie is the only candidate who ran last time, and the data remains meaningful. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #14
You're correct. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #5
I wouldn't say the South doesn't like Bernie.. it's that they just aren't than thrilled about him. honest.abe Mar 2019 #15
And SC may decide the race again SCantiGOP Mar 2019 #13
That was because Obama won Iowa, which gave Black folks confidence that he was viable. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #16
I'm a little surprised Harris and Booker aren't higher than Sanders madville Mar 2019 #17
 

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
2. But I thought the South didn't like Bernie.
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 08:20 PM
Mar 2019
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dsc

(52,162 posts)
3. He lost 10% of his support from 2012
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 10:47 PM
Mar 2019

He lost SC 68 to 31 in 2016.

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BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
4. Remind me again how many southern states he won in 2016?
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 03:51 PM
Mar 2019

And it looks like he’s getting crushed by a candidate not even in the race yet. Nothing’s changed.

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vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
6. I wouldn't say being in second place out of a field of 6 polled is getting crushed, but keep trying.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 07:44 PM
Mar 2019
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BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
7. How many southern states did he win in 2016?
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 09:22 PM
Mar 2019

I’m waiting.

And in politics when you’re getting beat by 16 you’re getting crushed.

But again, how many southern states did Bernie win in 2016?

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vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
8. Probably the same amount Hillary won in the General
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 02:18 AM
Mar 2019
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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
9. If that's your way of saying the Deep South doesn't matter, Bernie tried that in 2016.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:08 AM
Mar 2019

It didn't work out so well for him. Because, you see, the Democratic electorate in the Deep South can make or break the candidacy of someone seeking the nomination.

When you dismiss the Deep South and celebrate winning a caucus in KS/NE/ID/UT/WY, it's not a good look.

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BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
10. Except we're not talking about Hillary or the general election.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 01:25 PM
Mar 2019

Since you are apparently unable to answer the question the answer is ZERO.

Try harder.

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vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
11. Why are we talking about 2016. That race is over and done. Just because you don't like Bernie
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:16 PM
Mar 2019

Sanders, that does not mean he is not a contender in the primary. Some of us here like Bernie and the bashing is constant. I can see we are going to have the same ugliness that happened in 2016 all over gain. It is very early in the primary and only time will tell how things turn out. I will vote for whoever the winner of the primary is, just like I did in the last election, but I don't go on this board and bash other candidates that I dislike. It is just not productive.

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BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
12. Because this is a discussion board
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:59 PM
Mar 2019

And you indirectly referenced 2016 when you made the remark about the south and Bernie.

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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
14. Bernie is the only candidate who ran last time, and the data remains meaningful.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 05:16 PM
Mar 2019

Unless Sanders does much, much better than last time among POC and non-millennial women, he'll be finished after New Hampshire.

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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
15. I wouldn't say the South doesn't like Bernie.. it's that they just aren't than thrilled about him.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 05:19 PM
Mar 2019

He will lose every southern state in the primary... guaranteed.

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SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
13. And SC may decide the race again
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 05:14 PM
Mar 2019

McCain's candidacy was over when W beat him in South Carolina in 2000.
Hillary seemed unstoppable and Obama was still a long-shot when he trounced her in 2008.

I don't think we should let 4 completely atypical states like Iowa (ethanol), NH (small electorate of only 4 electoral votes), SC (50% black voters in Dem primary and 0% in GOP) and Nevada (gambling and hookers) decide the candidates, but since that is the way it will be for at least 2020, coming in a distant 2nd in SC can effectively end a campaign.

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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
16. That was because Obama won Iowa, which gave Black folks confidence that he was viable.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 05:21 PM
Mar 2019

I don't think South Carolina will determine the outcome, but I do think it'll give us a good idea whether Sanders has any hope. In 2016, he got stomped in South Carolina, which was not a good sign for him. Super Tuesday then confirmed that he was done for. I expect that'll happen again in 2020.

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madville

(7,410 posts)
17. I'm a little surprised Harris and Booker aren't higher than Sanders
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 05:57 PM
Mar 2019

Still plenty of time of course.

I personally think there are too many options on the left right now, Harris, Booker, and Warren are basically running identical campaigns. The Left's big disadvantage in the early states is that they have several good options and will split their power, easily allowing Biden and Sanders to finish 1st and 2nd in the first four states.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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