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Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 09:19 AM Mar 2019

The fallacy of the third party, protest, or not voting at all

We are a binary electoral system with two established parties.. voting third, not voting or protest is actually a vote for one side over the other..and anyone who tries and tells you different is at best lying to themselves... at worst lying to the rest of us for their reasons..

The time to swing one of the big two parties is during this primary system.. and it can be done.. look at what has happened to the former Republican party.. they are now the Trumpians.. so a party can move one way or the other during this primary time.

I remember a time when there was a whole branch of very liberal Republicans.. but that was long before Nixon and not relevant to today's politics but interesting history..

So during this time of setting up who will be our nominee... it is a great time to share thoughts and help set party platforms etc etc. This is the time..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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The fallacy of the third party, protest, or not voting at all (Original Post) Peacetrain Mar 2019 OP
Long view zipplewrath Mar 2019 #1
 

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
1. Long view
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 09:52 AM
Mar 2019

Political consultants wouldn't agree with you. Third party voting is often seen by political consultants as basically "tea leaves". It is an indication of future trends. Not voting doesn't really help much, except for perceptions of "enthusiasm". But third party voting is seen as an indicator for future elections. They'll all admit though that it is easy to misread the indicators. A third party candidate may merely be an indication that a particular candidate, especially an incumbent, isn't popular with some section of a party, and they are looking for the "anybody but" candidate. The issues upon which they are running may have little to do with it. Perot is often seen as one of these. He was the "don't like Bush, can't vote for Clinton" candidate.

I tend to agree that third party voting is horribly dangerous depending upon what state one lives. One can think they live in some sort of "blue wall" state or "safe" state in which one can vote third party with little actual consequence. But I suspect there were folks in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania who thought the same thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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