Democratic Primaries
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Bring on the BS!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)I actually don't care al all what he did wrong, I do care what he'll do when Trump and his Russian bot find his weak spots and start applying pressure.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Are you referring to the "Joe Biden sniffed my hair" and
"Joe Biden compimented a 10 year old girl"
accusations?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,846 posts)So I passed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)select Joe as my first choice. The "extreme vetting" has had no impact whatsoever on that disinclination.
I WILL support him if he is ultimately the nominee. But very likely not before then - not so long as there are much better alternatives in the running who are women.
Joe was an excellent Veep to Prez O and I will always respect that. But he cannot simply ride on Prez O's coattails now.
in my experience, Joe has not shown himself to be ready for the Top Job. I have a long memory for events in the 90s when his role was not at all stellar and I still fear that he could revert to what he was then - much too accommodating to GOPers who have shown nothing but contempt for compromise.
I hope not. But still ....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,995 posts)when he took $200K for speaking at a rally for a Republican named Upton just weeks before the election, because he appreciated the Republican's support on cancer research -- and refused to endorse the perfectly good Democrat running against him. Or even to take a phone call from the Democrat's office.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/us/politics/biden-speech-fred-upton.html
Joseph R. Biden Jr. swept into Benton Harbor, Mich., three weeks before the November elections, in the midst of his quest to reclaim the Midwest for Democrats. He took the stage at Lake Michigan College as Representative Fred Upton, a long-serving Republican from the area, faced the toughest race of his career.
But Mr. Biden was not there to denounce Mr. Upton. Instead, he was collecting $200,000 from the Economic Club of Southwestern Michigan to address a Republican-leaning audience, according to a speaking contract obtained by The New York Times and interviews with organizers. The group, a business-minded civic organization, is supported in part by an Upton family foundation.
Mr. Biden stunned Democrats and elated Republicans by praising Mr. Upton while the lawmaker looked on from the audience. Alluding to Mr. Uptons support for a landmark medical-research law, Mr. Biden called him a champion in the fight against cancer and one of the finest guys Ive ever worked with.
Mr. Bidens remarks, coming amid a wide-ranging discourse on American politics, quickly appeared in Republican advertising. The local Democratic Party pleaded with Mr. Biden to repair what it saw as a damaging error, to no avail. On Nov. 6, Mr. Upton defeated his Democratic challenger by four and a half percentage points.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,691 posts)important facts on most of these posts.
"Congressman Fred Upton, R-St. Joseph, alongside Congressman Gene Green, D-Texas, introduced H.R. 1920, a bill that would ensure cancer patients across the country continue to have access to life-saving treatments and care. H.R. 1920 addresses a flawed Medicare reimbursement formula that results in some providers not being adequately paid for their services."
When a bipartisan group of lawmakers including myself and my partner in this effort, U.S. Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.), gathered in the White House to sign the 21st Century Cures Actalso referred to as Curesinto law, it marked a momentous occasion. We not only had made needed reforms to the Food and Drug Administration and National Institutes of Health in order to encourage more efficient and safer approvals, we also had boosted research at the NIH, funded new mental-health programs, and appropriated money to states to fight the ongoing opioid epidemic.
More specifically, Cures is boosting four major innovative initiatives at the NIH: the Beau Biden Cancer Moonshot, which works to accelerate progress in cancer prevention and screening; the Precision Medicine Initiative, which is a long-term research endeavor aimed at understanding how a person's genetics, environment and lifestyle can help determine the best approach to prevent or treat disease; the Brain Research through Advancing Innovative Neurotechnologies Initiative, which supports a more dynamic understanding of brain functions; and the Regenerative Medicine Innovation Project, which aims to accelerate the field of stem cell science."
https://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20180922/NEWS/180919947/rep-upton-cures-act-is-delivering-on-promises-to-advance-research
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,999 posts)Eric Lester, a retired physician who chaired the Democratic Party in Berrien County, Mich., during the midterms, said he viewed Mr. Bidens supportive remarks about Mr. Upton as a betrayal. Mr. Lester, who attended the speech, said he had confronted an aide to Mr. Biden in the hallway, telling him the former vice president had badly damaged the Democratic cause.
It just gives Fred Upton cover and makes it possible for him to continue to pretend to be a useful, bipartisan fellow, Mr. Lester recalled saying, adding, I entered the hall with positive feelings about Mr. Biden and felt very frustrated.
A business-backed Republican group, Defending Main Street, ran digital ads on Facebook showing a grinning Mr. Biden and the crucial quote Fred Upton is one of the finest guys Ive ever worked with above a mock version of the former vice presidents signature.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,691 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vidal
(642 posts)Biden did not cause the Democrat to lose. In the previous election the Democrat lost by over 8 percentage points.
This is an attack that people like you have repeated a hundred times, to no avail.
give it up. it won't work.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)why I remain disinclined. Such actions do not reassure me at all..
Thanks for sharing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
shanny
(6,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
robbedvoter
(28,290 posts)Any time Clarence Thomas/Anita Hill are mentioned it comes "that was a long time ago" as it Roe Vs Wade doesn't hang on it today. I don't see anyone telling him to mile more or knit. Jut "It's been week and no gaffes"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,691 posts)likely to support their candidates in the primary. I actually like Harris but would think twice...in the primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Why would their bad behavior and, to me, typically flawed judgement and poor principles, affect mine?
However, when a whole faction of...unadmirable people adopt a leader, I have learned to take a good look at him and what he and his agents are up to to see what's drawing them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,691 posts)It is how I feel about it. And based on other comments, I suspect I am not alone.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,461 posts)Or igneous rock. Almost half a lifetime.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)attacking from both left and right if such a thing were possible, but it's not. It does make sure Biden's name is always at the front. Some of the other candidates would kill for this attention.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,691 posts)You make a god point...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,691 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,691 posts)close to Obama and that his knowledge and expertise was utilized...so they don't believe it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
shanny
(6,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,354 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden