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Related: About this forumSanders crashes Walmart meeting, blasts 'starvation wages'
PoliticoBernie Sanders showed up uninvited to a Walmart shareholders meeting Wednesday, blasting what he called the retail giant's "starvation wages" and imploring it to pay people at least $15 an hour.
The Vermont senator briefly addressed Walmart leadership at its annual shareholders meeting in Bentonville, Ark. Sanders introduced a proposal to allow hourly employees to join the companys board but used the remainder of his allotted three minutes to push for a living minimum wage.
The issue that we are dealing with today is pretty simple, Sanders said. Walmart is the largest private employer in America and is owned by the Walton family, the wealthiest family in the United States, worth approximately $175 billion. And yet despite the incredible wealth of its owner, Walmart pays many of its employees starvation wages, wages that are so low that many of these employees are forced to rely on government programs like food stamps, Medicaid and public housing in order to survive.
Frankly, Sanders continued, the American people are sick and tired of subsidizing the greed of some of the largest and most profitable corporations in this country.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)But reading further it seems it was anything but "uninvited."
"and authorized $20 billion in stock buybacks to benefit its wealthiest stockholders." By wealthiest stockholders they simply mean the Waltons. Not a much larger group. It's a trend among companies and a direct result of the "tax scam."
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jberryhill
(62,444 posts)You can't just wander in "uninvited" and get a microphone, no.
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SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)It's just playing to his base. It's very similar to the republicans and their wall. Make the Waltons out to be the problem so people don't really look behind the curtain. The problem doesn't get solved because it doesn't get addressed.
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zentrum
(9,865 posts)....with playing to your base? And what's wrong with crashing a meeting of an exploitative corporation that pays starvation wages? This is looking "behind the curtain". The Waltons own the curtain.
They're the Poster family for predatory capitalism---which isn't what capitalism was ever supposed to be.
Get them to pay a living wage and all the giant corporations will follow.
Let's have all Democrats do this!
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TwilightZone
(25,479 posts)He was invited and it was announced he would be attending a couple weeks ago.
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zentrum
(9,865 posts)....that too but had no exact source.
I think what he did and what he said is terrific.
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)A powerful U.S. senator posturing as a low-power demonstrator, when all he ever had to do was instruct a staffer to set up a meeting or meetings. In his office or elsewhere in DC. Even Walmart's top management come when U.S. senators call.
This is a disgusting display of contempt for the intelligence of those he wants to vote for him, and I really mean it. If any of the others did this, they'd be off my list immediately. But none would. Trump would. Ted Cruz would. But none of ours.
Trump: "I could shoot somebody and not lose voters." Not quite true.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Roy Rolling
(6,933 posts)Annual shareholder meetings of large corporations are a big deal. It's an opportunity for company directors to hear from shareholders and others.
Addressing the Board of Directors like this is proper corporate etiquette, and shareholder meetings sometimes contain raucous debates.
If a person has a grievance with a giant corporation like Wal-Mart, addressing the board of directors at the annual shareholder meeting is the right time and place.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)with a group of demonstrators from the beginning. Sorry, but imo this cynical use of their meeting for a hostile photo op is very far from proper "etiquette." Not to the shareholders attending and certainly not to those he's trying to deceive with this playacting for media attention.
On the courteous side, they had plenty of warning that he would be showing up with TV cameras and put their pros on to handle.
Wondering, did he bring his own megaphone this time, like when he crashed the event the Parkland students held at the Capitol that they didn't want him at?
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LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)It was Politico that coined it as such.
And in fact, looking into it further, he was not invited by Walmart. He was offered by the workers spokesperson to stand in for him. So in effect he DID crash it in a sense. A bit of a stretch still but I see where Politico got that from.
Which amounted to a motion from the floor, not the stage where the "important" people sat and made much longer presentations, but a motion limited to 3 fricken minutes. Using the allotted time that Davis, the employee spokesperson would have had.
I know the primary season is starting to heat up, but can't you at least find something more egregious a sin for one of our candidates to criticize about than speaking up for workers at a Walmart annual meeting? jeez
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TwilightZone
(25,479 posts)reported on it and the term seems to be how Sanders himself represented it.
"The Vermont Senator and 2020 presidential candidate has said he will crash the annual meeting next month to introduce a shareholder proposal that gives hourly Walmart workers a seat on the board of directors of the giant retail company. "
https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-walmart-1432083
This wasn't a surprise to anyone.
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LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)I answered you in another post. Explaining how in a way he DID crash it.
But I'll add.....why is this bad thing? He set it up and then knocked it out of the park. It was a way to bring a light on the issue. What the hell is wrong with that?
All the hand wringing in here if one of our candidates dares to even give off the appearance of ......what?...exaggeration? sensationalism? No matter if the cause is good or not, lord help us we dare to make a headline using flowery language. Meanwhile Republicans outright lie.
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zentrum
(9,865 posts)...to stand up to a powerfully cynical exploiter like Wmart.
Very American thing to do I'd say.
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)instead of posturing as a powerless demonstrator forced to crash because they won't listen to little people?
This is a PHOTO OP to get attention. Please don't imagine that as president he would be earnestly marching the streets with kids carrying placards hoping someone would read them. It's PHONY.
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zentrum
(9,865 posts)...saying, Democratic Senators have almost no power to effect WMart on the floor. No one would even know it had happened.
This kind of "posturing" will get this really important issue out there in a way nothing else could. Brilliant move.
Hope he continues.
BTW, every candidate wants a photo-op. That's what happens during the election cycle in America. Are they all supposed to avoid photo-ops? This one just happened to be extra successful.
Really don't at all get what you're so exorcised about other than perhaps dislike for Bernie.
Hope Biden and the rest do similar things asap. The impolite, photo-op mongering louts!
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)his voters, exactly the same as Trump's foolery, but you see it differently. Carry on, but don't imagine you will see it in candidates appealing to voters who expect much better from them.
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zentrum
(9,865 posts)
.he was invited by Walmart employee Cat Davis and was given three minutes on the floor to deliver the proposal on her behalf.
Which he did, as any good guest would.
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zentrum
(9,865 posts)Today Sanders called on Mitch McConnell to put the $15 minimum wage onto the Senate floor.
Over 200 co-signers.
What a well-behaved gentleman Sanders is.
But of course, we'll see if Mitchy let's it go forward as per the proper way progress is usually buried in the Senate.
So workers may not get that raise, but Thank Heavens they'll be saved from uncouth behavior.
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Spot on.
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SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)I would have an issue with one of the most powerful politicians in the country crashing a shareholder meeting and calling out a specific company that is operating according to law, for the most part. Trump uses a similar tactic and its garbage. This is an issue for legislators. Not the Waltons. This is a failure in sufficiently regulating capitalism.
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zentrum
(9,865 posts)...our government. The usual routes are broken.
Best way to effect change is to go to the owners. You've heard of Citizen's United, perhaps? . That was the end of the reliable routes to democratic change.
Glad he drew attention to an obsecenity----$25,000 a minute vs. $25,000 a year.
Income disparity at these levels is destroying us.
Glad he went outside the box. We don't have much time.
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SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)And we have a lot of people fighting with us.
This was planned and the people knew ahead of time. Not a big thing.
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LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)It would be "wrong" to crash it and in so doing, create a story highlighting Wallmarts low wages? You run for the vapors if a Democratic candidate doesn't follow the rules exactly? Set by the same corporation that is guilty of underpaying its employees? Even if it brings more awareness to a bad situation? Meanwhile Republicans lie, and cheat openly. Wow. When they go low, we go high.....or at least as high as they say we can according to the rules they set for us.
And its funny hearing criticism about playing to his base. That alone is puzzling, as thats an important part of winning. But it is even more odd in that Sanders is one of the few candidates that actually has appeal to many independents as well. Many who support a higher minimum wage. His 'base' is much more spread out than other candidates, other than Gabbard.
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SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)And I have no problem with politics being rough. It should be.
As for your reply about playing to your base, I never said thats a bad thing. Its what Sanders is doing here.
There was an actual legislator in that room. One of the people who is suppose to regulate capitalism.
With that said, I dont have much of a problem with this. Its one thing if he crashed it. Its something completely different when everyone knows well in advance.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,337 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)"Sanders was invited to speak as a proxy for Walmart worker Cat Davis, a leader of the pro-worker group United for Respect. It was Davis' proposal that Sanders pitched."
First off, all shareholders and their proxies are "invited" to the shareholder meeting of a public company.
The article is deceptively written to suggest he just wandered in and they gave him a speaking opportunity.
Not a Sanders fan, but that's just lying.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Roy Rolling
(6,933 posts)How many here fell for the deception? Why? Because few are familiar with the machinations of public corporations. And dishonest editors use that inexperience to create opposition of righteous indignation where no offense exists.
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irisblue
(33,022 posts)...." Walmart employee Cat Davis, who is also a leader for workers rights organization United for Respect.
We really want Walmart to think about us the lowly associates who, behind the scenes, are the ones bringing in the money, said Davis, who works as certified pharmacy technician in New Bern, N.C.
.... "Davis said she invited Sanders to speak at the shareholders meeting because he has supported workers in their fight for better pay and paid sick leave."
Dated 5-21-19
Source--https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/05/21/walmart-workers-invited-special-guest-crash-companys-annual-meeting-bernie-sanders/
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TwilightZone
(25,479 posts)That's pretty much the opposite of "crashes".
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tecelote
(5,122 posts)If Walmart paid a living wage these working people would not need welfare.
Instead we pay the difference between what Walmart pays and the living wage.
So, in reality, our taxes are going directly to Walmart's bottom line. They save money by paying starvation wages knowing the American people will pay the difference.
The money saved by Walmart is pure profit. Right in to their pockets.
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mudstump
(342 posts)Frankly, Sanders continued, the American people are sick and tired of subsidizing the greed of some of the largest and most profitable corporations in this country.
Thank you, Bernie!
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jalan48
(13,883 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)knew about it this morning.
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Politicub
(12,165 posts)Possibly earlier.
This happened in slow motion, I suppose.
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Politicub
(12,165 posts)One merely attends the party.
Even if the invited one shouts, "I'm crashing this party more than any party has been crashed before! And the music sucks," one still isn't crashing the party.
The music may very well suck, and the guacamole could be bad, too. But just because someone says he is crashing something doesn't make it so.
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LibFarmer
(772 posts)means very little in the real world.
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Roy Rolling
(6,933 posts)Most people only read headlines, share a story and move on.
It isn't right, but judging a book by its cover is soooo 2019.
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LibFarmer
(772 posts)They see pandering when it is blatant.
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Raven123
(4,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
House of Roberts
(5,182 posts)Thank you for indulging us with your attention.
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LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)As well Politico also stated "Bernie Sanders showed up uninvited to a Walmart shareholders meeting Wednesday"
The OP was just taking the story at face value. Politico is usually a fairly accurate news source. If you'all have a problem with the fake news description of how he got there, take it up with Politico.
Now...about those low Walmart wages...any response on the actual issue raised?
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TwilightZone
(25,479 posts)From Newsweek a couple of weeks ago:
"The Vermont Senator and 2020 presidential candidate has said he will crash the annual meeting next month to introduce a shareholder proposal that gives hourly Walmart workers a seat on the board of directors of the giant retail company. "
https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-walmart-1432083
And Politico is being contradictory. He was invited:
"Sanders was invited to speak as a proxy for Walmart worker Cat Davis, a leader of the pro-worker group United for Respect. It was Davis' proposal that Sanders pitched."
I agree that the OP was just taking the article at face value, but the article itself is misleading.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)He was invited......but not by Walmart. They would obviously NOT have him attend
He was invited by the leader of workers' rights organization United for Respect, Cat Davis. And she gave up her time allotment of 3 whole minutes from the floor, not the stage, to him.
He was invited, by workers, but then he did crash it in a way too, as he'd be the last person the board would have 'invited'.
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Sienna86
(2,149 posts)Hope it does some good.
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Kentonio
(4,377 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided