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brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 03:12 PM Jun 2019

Sanders crashes Walmart meeting, blasts 'starvation wages'

Politico

Bernie Sanders showed up uninvited to a Walmart shareholders meeting Wednesday, blasting what he called the retail giant's "starvation wages" and imploring it to pay people at least $15 an hour.

The Vermont senator briefly addressed Walmart leadership at its annual shareholders meeting in Bentonville, Ark. Sanders introduced a proposal to allow hourly employees to join the company’s board but used the remainder of his allotted three minutes to push for a “living” minimum wage.

“The issue that we are dealing with today is pretty simple,” Sanders said. “Walmart is the largest private employer in America and is owned by the Walton family, the wealthiest family in the United States, worth approximately $175 billion. And yet despite the incredible wealth of its owner, Walmart pays many of its employees starvation wages, wages that are so low that many of these employees are forced to rely on government programs like food stamps, Medicaid and public housing in order to survive.”

“Frankly,” Sanders continued, “the American people are sick and tired of subsidizing the greed of some of the largest and most profitable corporations in this country.”
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Sanders crashes Walmart meeting, blasts 'starvation wages' (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2019 OP
I would have a serious problem with this if it was truly an "uninvited" situation. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #1
The article is deliberately deceptive jberryhill Jun 2019 #3
It would be wrong for him to do if it was uninvited. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #4
What's wrong zentrum Jun 2019 #7
He didn't crash the meeting. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #15
Thanks. I heard zentrum Jun 2019 #34
Deliberately and shabbily deceiving and insulting people is wrong. Hortensis Jun 2019 #19
Reconsider Your Take Roy Rolling Jun 2019 #21
This has been advertised by Sanders' camp as crashing the meeting Hortensis Jun 2019 #24
It wasn't "advertised by Sanders' camp as crashing the meeting". Stop spreading fake news. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #31
No, it predates the Politico article. Newsweek from two weeks ago... TwilightZone Jun 2019 #32
I stand corrected on that. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #36
It's never "cynical" zentrum Jun 2019 #35
Why doesn't he stand up as a U.S. Senator then Hortensis Jun 2019 #40
Um, as I was zentrum Jun 2019 #41
I am deeply contemptuous of the attitude this reveals toward Hortensis Jun 2019 #43
LOL. Turns out zentrum Jun 2019 #45
And also.. zentrum Jun 2019 #47
This. cwydro Jun 2019 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2019 #46
I see nothing wrong with playing to your base. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #22
Corporations run zentrum Jun 2019 #37
The routes are still there. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #39
What a bizzare take on it LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #18
Who "runs for vapors?" SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #26
Bernie's being mean to job creators!1!1! Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #27
Use of the word "uninvited" is deliberately misleading jberryhill Jun 2019 #2
It's even worse Roy Rolling Jun 2019 #23
"Crashes" is pure codswallop irisblue Jun 2019 #5
He was invited and his intended appearance was public knowledge weeks ago. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #6
We pay, through taxes, to make up for the wages Walmart does not pay. It's called welfare. tecelote Jun 2019 #8
Thank you, Bernie for once again advocating for the working class.... mudstump Jun 2019 #9
Thank you Senator Sanders for speaking up for the workers at WalMart. jalan48 Jun 2019 #10
Somehow NPR obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2019 #11
There were posts about it on DU at least a week ago Politicub Jun 2019 #14
When one is invited to a party, one doesn't crash it when one shows up. Politicub Jun 2019 #12
Nice photo op and headlines LibFarmer Jun 2019 #13
As Contraire Roy Rolling Jun 2019 #25
Most people are smarter than that LibFarmer Jun 2019 #38
Great job Bernie. Glad someone thought to invite him Raven123 Jun 2019 #16
This has been your weekly Politico corporatist partisan language lesson for the week. House of Roberts Jun 2019 #17
The word "crashes" was written by Politico. But I see many using it as a Red Herring to derail LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #20
The term was floating around a couple of weeks ago. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #30
Well that depends what ones definition of "crash" is LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #33
Good for him. He's a voice for the underpaid employees. Sienna86 Jun 2019 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2019 #29
Good work Bernie. Kentonio Jun 2019 #44
 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
1. I would have a serious problem with this if it was truly an "uninvited" situation.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 03:16 PM
Jun 2019

But reading further it seems it was anything but "uninvited."

"and authorized $20 billion in stock buybacks to benefit its wealthiest stockholders." By wealthiest stockholders they simply mean the Waltons. Not a much larger group. It's a trend among companies and a direct result of the "tax scam."

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jberryhill

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3. The article is deliberately deceptive
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 03:19 PM
Jun 2019

You can't just wander in "uninvited" and get a microphone, no.
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SouthernProgressive

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4. It would be wrong for him to do if it was uninvited.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 03:22 PM
Jun 2019

It's just playing to his base. It's very similar to the republicans and their wall. Make the Waltons out to be the problem so people don't really look behind the curtain. The problem doesn't get solved because it doesn't get addressed.

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zentrum

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7. What's wrong
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 04:18 PM
Jun 2019

....with playing to your base? And what's wrong with crashing a meeting of an exploitative corporation that pays starvation wages? This is looking "behind the curtain". The Waltons own the curtain.

They're the Poster family for predatory capitalism---which isn't what capitalism was ever supposed to be.

Get them to pay a living wage and all the giant corporations will follow.

Let's have all Democrats do this!

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TwilightZone

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15. He didn't crash the meeting.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 04:47 PM
Jun 2019

He was invited and it was announced he would be attending a couple weeks ago.

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zentrum

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34. Thanks. I heard
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 07:01 PM
Jun 2019

....that too but had no exact source.

I think what he did and what he said is terrific.

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Hortensis

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19. Deliberately and shabbily deceiving and insulting people is wrong.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 05:03 PM
Jun 2019

A powerful U.S. senator posturing as a low-power demonstrator, when all he ever had to do was instruct a staffer to set up a meeting or meetings. In his office or elsewhere in DC. Even Walmart's top management come when U.S. senators call.

This is a disgusting display of contempt for the intelligence of those he wants to vote for him, and I really mean it. If any of the others did this, they'd be off my list immediately. But none would. Trump would. Ted Cruz would. But none of ours.

Trump: "I could shoot somebody and not lose voters." Not quite true.

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Roy Rolling

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21. Reconsider Your Take
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 05:25 PM
Jun 2019

Annual shareholder meetings of large corporations are a big deal. It's an opportunity for company directors to hear from shareholders and others.

Addressing the Board of Directors like this is proper corporate etiquette, and shareholder meetings sometimes contain raucous debates.

If a person has a grievance with a giant corporation like Wal-Mart, addressing the board of directors at the annual shareholder meeting is the right time and place.

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Hortensis

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24. This has been advertised by Sanders' camp as crashing the meeting
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 05:31 PM
Jun 2019

with a group of demonstrators from the beginning. Sorry, but imo this cynical use of their meeting for a hostile photo op is very far from proper "etiquette." Not to the shareholders attending and certainly not to those he's trying to deceive with this playacting for media attention.

On the courteous side, they had plenty of warning that he would be showing up with TV cameras and put their pros on to handle.

Wondering, did he bring his own megaphone this time, like when he crashed the event the Parkland students held at the Capitol that they didn't want him at?

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LiberalLovinLug

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31. It wasn't "advertised by Sanders' camp as crashing the meeting". Stop spreading fake news.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 06:45 PM
Jun 2019

It was Politico that coined it as such.

And in fact, looking into it further, he was not invited by Walmart. He was offered by the workers spokesperson to stand in for him. So in effect he DID crash it in a sense. A bit of a stretch still but I see where Politico got that from.

Which amounted to a motion from the floor, not the stage where the "important" people sat and made much longer presentations, but a motion limited to 3 fricken minutes. Using the allotted time that Davis, the employee spokesperson would have had.

I know the primary season is starting to heat up, but can't you at least find something more egregious a sin for one of our candidates to criticize about than speaking up for workers at a Walmart annual meeting? jeez


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TwilightZone

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32. No, it predates the Politico article. Newsweek from two weeks ago...
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 06:49 PM
Jun 2019

reported on it and the term seems to be how Sanders himself represented it.

"The Vermont Senator and 2020 presidential candidate has said he will crash the annual meeting next month to introduce a shareholder proposal that gives hourly Walmart workers a seat on the board of directors of the giant retail company. "

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-walmart-1432083

This wasn't a surprise to anyone.

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LiberalLovinLug

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36. I stand corrected on that.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 07:03 PM
Jun 2019

I answered you in another post. Explaining how in a way he DID crash it.

But I'll add.....why is this bad thing? He set it up and then knocked it out of the park. It was a way to bring a light on the issue. What the hell is wrong with that?

All the hand wringing in here if one of our candidates dares to even give off the appearance of ......what?...exaggeration? sensationalism? No matter if the cause is good or not, lord help us we dare to make a headline using flowery language. Meanwhile Republicans outright lie.

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zentrum

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35. It's never "cynical"
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 07:02 PM
Jun 2019

...to stand up to a powerfully cynical exploiter like Wmart.

Very American thing to do I'd say.

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Hortensis

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40. Why doesn't he stand up as a U.S. Senator then
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 07:39 PM
Jun 2019

instead of posturing as a powerless demonstrator forced to crash because they won't listen to little people?

This is a PHOTO OP to get attention. Please don't imagine that as president he would be earnestly marching the streets with kids carrying placards hoping someone would read them. It's PHONY.

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zentrum

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41. Um, as I was
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:59 PM
Jun 2019

...saying, Democratic Senators have almost no power to effect WMart on the floor. No one would even know it had happened.

This kind of "posturing" will get this really important issue out there in a way nothing else could. Brilliant move.
Hope he continues.

BTW, every candidate wants a photo-op. That's what happens during the election cycle in America. Are they all supposed to avoid photo-ops? This one just happened to be extra successful.

Really don't at all get what you're so exorcised about other than perhaps dislike for Bernie.

Hope Biden and the rest do similar things asap. The impolite, photo-op mongering louts!

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Hortensis

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43. I am deeply contemptuous of the attitude this reveals toward
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 05:28 AM
Jun 2019

his voters, exactly the same as Trump's foolery, but you see it differently. Carry on, but don't imagine you will see it in candidates appealing to voters who expect much better from them.

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zentrum

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45. LOL. Turns out
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 04:37 PM
Jun 2019

….he was invited by Walmart employee Cat Davis and was given three minutes on the floor to deliver the proposal on her behalf.

Which he did, as any good guest would.

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zentrum

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47. And also..
Thu Jun 6, 2019, 05:22 PM
Jun 2019

Today Sanders called on Mitch McConnell to put the $15 minimum wage onto the Senate floor.

Over 200 co-signers.

What a well-behaved gentleman Sanders is.

But of course, we'll see if Mitchy let's it go forward as per the proper way progress is usually buried in the Senate.

So workers may not get that raise, but Thank Heavens they'll be saved from uncouth behavior.

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SouthernProgressive

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22. I see nothing wrong with playing to your base.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 05:27 PM
Jun 2019

I would have an issue with one of the most powerful politicians in the country crashing a shareholder meeting and calling out a specific company that is operating according to law, for the most part. Trump uses a similar tactic and it’s garbage. This is an issue for legislators. Not the Waltons. This is a failure in sufficiently regulating capitalism.

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zentrum

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37. Corporations run
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 07:08 PM
Jun 2019

...our government. The usual routes are broken.

Best way to effect change is to go to the owners. You've heard of Citizen's United, perhaps? . That was the end of the reliable routes to democratic change.

Glad he drew attention to an obsecenity----$25,000 a minute vs. $25,000 a year.

Income disparity at these levels is destroying us.

Glad he went outside the box. We don't have much time.

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SouthernProgressive

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39. The routes are still there.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 07:37 PM
Jun 2019

And we have a lot of people fighting with us.

This was planned and the people knew ahead of time. Not a big thing.

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LiberalLovinLug

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18. What a bizzare take on it
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 05:02 PM
Jun 2019

It would be "wrong" to crash it and in so doing, create a story highlighting Wallmarts low wages? You run for the vapors if a Democratic candidate doesn't follow the rules exactly? Set by the same corporation that is guilty of underpaying its employees? Even if it brings more awareness to a bad situation? Meanwhile Republicans lie, and cheat openly. Wow. When they go low, we go high.....or at least as high as they say we can according to the rules they set for us.

And its funny hearing criticism about playing to his base. That alone is puzzling, as thats an important part of winning. But it is even more odd in that Sanders is one of the few candidates that actually has appeal to many independents as well. Many who support a higher minimum wage. His 'base' is much more spread out than other candidates, other than Gabbard.

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SouthernProgressive

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26. Who "runs for vapors?"
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 05:45 PM
Jun 2019

And I have no problem with politics being rough. It should be.

As for your reply about playing to your base, I never said that’s a bad thing. It’s what Sanders is doing here.

There was an actual legislator in that room. One of the people who is suppose to regulate capitalism.

With that said, I don’t have much of a problem with this. It’s one thing if he crashed it. It’s something completely different when everyone knows well in advance.

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Hassin Bin Sober

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27. Bernie's being mean to job creators!1!1!
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 05:57 PM
Jun 2019
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jberryhill

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2. Use of the word "uninvited" is deliberately misleading
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 03:18 PM
Jun 2019


"Sanders was invited to speak as a proxy for Walmart worker Cat Davis, a leader of the pro-worker group United for Respect. It was Davis' proposal that Sanders pitched."

First off, all shareholders and their proxies are "invited" to the shareholder meeting of a public company.

The article is deceptively written to suggest he just wandered in and they gave him a speaking opportunity.

Not a Sanders fan, but that's just lying.
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Roy Rolling

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23. It's even worse
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 05:30 PM
Jun 2019

How many here fell for the deception? Why? Because few are familiar with the machinations of public corporations. And dishonest editors use that inexperience to create opposition of righteous indignation where no offense exists.

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irisblue

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5. "Crashes" is pure codswallop
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 03:40 PM
Jun 2019

...." Walmart employee Cat Davis, who is also a leader for workers’ rights organization United for Respect.

“We really want Walmart to think about us — the lowly associates who, behind the scenes, are the ones bringing in the money,” said Davis, who works as certified pharmacy technician in New Bern, N.C.
.... "Davis said she invited Sanders to speak at the shareholders meeting because he has supported workers in their fight for better pay and paid sick leave."

Dated 5-21-19
Source--https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/05/21/walmart-workers-invited-special-guest-crash-companys-annual-meeting-bernie-sanders/

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TwilightZone

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6. He was invited and his intended appearance was public knowledge weeks ago.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 03:56 PM
Jun 2019

That's pretty much the opposite of "crashes".

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tecelote

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8. We pay, through taxes, to make up for the wages Walmart does not pay. It's called welfare.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 04:19 PM
Jun 2019

If Walmart paid a living wage these working people would not need welfare.

Instead we pay the difference between what Walmart pays and the living wage.

So, in reality, our taxes are going directly to Walmart's bottom line. They save money by paying starvation wages knowing the American people will pay the difference.

The money saved by Walmart is pure profit. Right in to their pockets.



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mudstump

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9. Thank you, Bernie for once again advocating for the working class....
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 04:35 PM
Jun 2019

“Frankly,” Sanders continued, “the American people are sick and tired of subsidizing the greed of some of the largest and most profitable corporations in this country.”

Thank you, Bernie!

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jalan48

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10. Thank you Senator Sanders for speaking up for the workers at WalMart.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 04:35 PM
Jun 2019
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obnoxiousdrunk

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11. Somehow NPR
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 04:40 PM
Jun 2019

knew about it this morning.

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Politicub

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14. There were posts about it on DU at least a week ago
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 04:44 PM
Jun 2019

Possibly earlier.

This happened in slow motion, I suppose.

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Politicub

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12. When one is invited to a party, one doesn't crash it when one shows up.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 04:43 PM
Jun 2019

One merely attends the party.

Even if the invited one shouts, "I'm crashing this party more than any party has been crashed before! And the music sucks," one still isn't crashing the party.

The music may very well suck, and the guacamole could be bad, too. But just because someone says he is crashing something doesn't make it so.

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LibFarmer

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13. Nice photo op and headlines
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 04:43 PM
Jun 2019

means very little in the real world.

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Roy Rolling

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25. As Contraire
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 05:32 PM
Jun 2019

Most people only read headlines, share a story and move on.

It isn't right, but judging a book by its cover is soooo 2019.

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LibFarmer

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38. Most people are smarter than that
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 07:29 PM
Jun 2019

They see pandering when it is blatant.

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Raven123

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16. Great job Bernie. Glad someone thought to invite him
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 04:57 PM
Jun 2019
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House of Roberts

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17. This has been your weekly Politico corporatist partisan language lesson for the week.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 04:59 PM
Jun 2019

Thank you for indulging us with your attention.

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LiberalLovinLug

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20. The word "crashes" was written by Politico. But I see many using it as a Red Herring to derail
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 05:12 PM
Jun 2019

As well Politico also stated "Bernie Sanders showed up uninvited to a Walmart shareholders meeting Wednesday"

The OP was just taking the story at face value. Politico is usually a fairly accurate news source. If you'all have a problem with the fake news description of how he got there, take it up with Politico.

Now...about those low Walmart wages...any response on the actual issue raised?

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TwilightZone

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30. The term was floating around a couple of weeks ago.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 06:39 PM
Jun 2019

From Newsweek a couple of weeks ago:

"The Vermont Senator and 2020 presidential candidate has said he will crash the annual meeting next month to introduce a shareholder proposal that gives hourly Walmart workers a seat on the board of directors of the giant retail company. "

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-walmart-1432083

And Politico is being contradictory. He was invited:

"Sanders was invited to speak as a proxy for Walmart worker Cat Davis, a leader of the pro-worker group United for Respect. It was Davis' proposal that Sanders pitched."

I agree that the OP was just taking the article at face value, but the article itself is misleading.

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LiberalLovinLug

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33. Well that depends what ones definition of "crash" is
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 06:56 PM
Jun 2019

He was invited......but not by Walmart. They would obviously NOT have him attend

He was invited by the leader of workers' rights organization United for Respect, Cat Davis. And she gave up her time allotment of 3 whole minutes from the floor, not the stage, to him.

He was invited, by workers, but then he did crash it in a way too, as he'd be the last person the board would have 'invited'.

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Sienna86

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28. Good for him. He's a voice for the underpaid employees.
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 05:59 PM
Jun 2019

Hope it does some good.

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