Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumI like Joe as a human being, but we can do better.
We have many very qualified very electable candidates, none of whom have the baggage Biden is dragging around. His latest revelation: that not only did he vote for the Hyde Amendment while in congress, but that he continues to support it now, is quite simply disqualifying.
We can do better.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)In a group, I In a group, I play defence attorney of last resort. It wont hurt Biden in the GE:
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)it's about not putting up a candidate that has said he doesn't support women's healthcare. Which he did say (or his campaign did) today, a couple hours ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
riverine
(516 posts)But Biden is the best chance to beat Trump.
(which you probably already knew)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)(Which you probably already knew)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zentrum
(9,865 posts)And there's more baggage than Hyde that is not being recognized yet on DU.
Of course all the candidates probably have some baggage too--which the Repugs will ferret out and enlarge.
All to be revisited after the Democratic primary debates.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LenaBaby61
(6,977 posts)Have soured on or are on their way to souring on him and are now back in the undecided camp.
I tried to tell them that although folks think that he's the only one who can beat tRumputin, I believe that there are other alternatives to beating the fat hog, but since we know that the Russians were given an invitation to intrefere by thuglicans and by tRump ....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indygram
(2,113 posts)He doesn't scare the bejesus out of moderates and doesn't turn off progressives. Ironically, he also has PROVEN he can increase young (NEW) voter turnout by 500%. He's got some pretty damn good plans too....and he has MAD charisma and works harder than any politician I've ever seen.
He also supports REPEALING the disgusting Hyde Amendment.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Just need to see the debates before jumping.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,337 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JI7
(89,264 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
progressoid
(49,999 posts)But when it gets down to the nitty gritty, he's kind of a hard sell.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JI7
(89,264 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
riverine
(516 posts)Even if only 3% of voters are truly independent they will decide the election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indygram
(2,113 posts)And to be perfectly honest...Beto O'Rourke is the only one running who I REALLY, REALLY like. I donate to him and my old ass will volunteer and work to help get him elected if he's the nominee. No one else inspires me to do that. Not even close.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
progressoid
(49,999 posts)to make up the difference.
For instance, in Wisconsin, in 2012, Clinton got 230,000 fewer votes than Obama did in 2012. Obama's 200,000-vote victory margin became a 30,000-vote defeat for Clinton. Trump got the same number of votes that Romney did.
The same thing happened in Michigan. Obama won MI in 2012 by 350,000 votes, Clinton lost by roughly 10,000. She received 300,000 votes less than Obama did in 2012.
In just those two states over a half million voters didn't show up.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ancianita
(36,133 posts)My guess is Bernie, but the Trump slams about commie/red real intentions, along with his not impressive legislative record, might discourage votes.
If not Bernie, who do you think we can do better with.
I'm just asking because I'm interested in the case you will make.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indygram
(2,113 posts)eom
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)We need to beat trump which will not be easy. We cannot nominate a weaker candidate and expect to win
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)You know who wasn't? A black man named Hussein. An Orange man who was a reality TV star. Electable is not the only metric, nor is it something we can predict success on.
Why won't beating trump be easy? It should be an task any capable Democratic candidate can do, and we have a whole bunch of them, let's not force someone out of touch.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,394 posts)TODAY, that is a problem from my perspective.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,431 posts)He's a good man. But when it comes to candidates, we can do better.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
demosincebirth
(12,543 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,431 posts)It's all in the campaign, and this one has hardly even started. To which I add, I'm not convinced *he* can beat Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassler
(3,390 posts)They're all better than The Lout.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)I think people think Joe will pull some working class white men from Orange Baby, not sure he will peel enough away. I think we need to energize millennials, women, etc, mobilize the base.
So I think Harris and Warren are better bets.
And....was taken aback when Joe said he thought republicans would all of a sudden not stonewall if he won. That seems extremely unlikely, hope he doesnt really believe that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And in my view, it is an attempt to control women.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,058 posts)All of them have some baggage. Question in this critical 2020 election is who has highest chance of kicking out this idiot in WH. Biden can.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)I like him as well, and if he's our nominee I will work my tail off for him, but I don't believe he's the right person for the times we're in, and his insistence that he'll be able to restore bipartisanship is the perfect example. His campaign has also been a bit of a cluster.
I really believe that he'll fade as soon as the campaign really gets in gear, so things are likely to take care of themselves. And if Biden makes it through the primary and becomes our nominee, it will have made him a better candidate and he will have my unconditional support.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pat_k
(9,313 posts)My fear is that Biden can be too easily be branded as "insider" "ineffective establishment" "wishy washy"... etc against Trumps "maverick" "outsider" "strong man" "stir up the pot" bullshit. People across the political spectrum have had it with "business as usual." The only thing that makes "business as usual" acceptable is that DT is so horrific. But I don't think "business as usual" inspires the kind of passion, activism, and turnout we need.
There are so many candidates vying for attention, I think the only reason Biden is "ahead of the pack" is name recognition. He may stay there by default, but I really don't think he is the best to inspire the kind of activism and turnout we need to win. It can't all be driven by "anti-trump." Anti-trump was a powerful force in 2016, and it was not enough to overcome Trumpeteers + the "I've had it with things the way they are" blocks.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(14,047 posts)Ideologically, I align more with Warren and Sanders but I dont believe they can win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)His experience is his asset. It is not baggage because not everyone agrees with everything he did decades ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(14,047 posts)He needs to walk that back, IMO.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)Or the Hyde Amendment isn't even going to be an issue. Roe v. Wade could be overturned.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(14,047 posts)Because I believe hes our best chance to oust Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jose Garcia
(2,605 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden