is a really really good thing.

I wonder what all the "finger wag" folks will say about this.

for raising a finger... for Biden , it's "forBIDEN"!!


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photo, poor form, that's all I have to say about that.

Oh boy, look out... the accusations of misogyny against Bernie would NEVER end!!


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It would be absolutely endless. But now there's nothing but excuses. It was her fault, it's probably fake, it's an ambush, what is the context, she's smirking...and on and on and on. Pathetic.

he should be fine.


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....have been a setup, how did he make a "mistake in handling the situation"? WHAT was the "situation"?

But it sure helps frame the narrative.

You seem to know the context and conversation from a still photo that the rest of us do not know. Perhaps you were there? Please explain in detail. Thanks.

At lease he stands up for womens reproductive rights and doesn't consider it peripheral.

Perhaps that will button up some of the nonsense I’m reading here.

She was positioned behind the podium on the other side of the barricade. She was NOT being disruptive in that video. She even clapped at the end. So whoever is trying to say that she was disrupting the speech or protesting is not accurate.

I posted the link to it at least twice on this thread in replies.

To me, it doesn't look like she went there to disrupt. It sounds much more like she had a valid concern and asked him a tough question and he got defensive.

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a Trump rally and then he defended a womans right to choose...that clip was taken to make him look bad...it was not bad.

I watched the speech with her right on camera the whole damn time and she didn't do ANYTHING disruptive at all. She was NEVER approached to be "kicked out" either. She's the one with the red hair right behind Biden in the video. Anyone who tries to say she was protesting or being disruptive are either speaking of someone else or just are not telling the truth.

Notice no one else even mentioned this? There is a reason.

Like others have.

I'm not sure I follow the question. Sorry.

It's always about him.

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That's the point. Joe doesn't just like people, he likes men AND women. He has lots of friends who are women. Sanders doesn't.

It's a huge difference in character and up to each of us to decide what it means to us. I'm a woman. I like men who enjoy being with whatever gender. No accident that I married one.

And huge NO to fingers wagged in my face, not that I can recall anyone ever being that rude to me. One did turn the back of his chair to me at a banquet table, but notably, the man he turned toward punished him by then chatting past him to me. These behaviors are boorish and not respectable.

but, did you see the video that went viral? There's clearly finger wagging goin on... so, if not, you should, as I wonder if it would change your opinion at all.


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for several decades now and has excellent social skills. I shouldn't have said he would never do that literally, since he did, but that it's not "him," very unlike another person for whom rudeness is common, even signature behavior.

Speaking of, you wouldn't see Biden physically pushing past a senator in her 80s even though where they were walking the one who did had plenty of room to avoid physical contact so that one wonders why on earth he didn't. Just feeling cranky? The end of the little video where the senator swats at his back to indicate her opinion is actually funny. (Btw, if they ever really got into it, my money'd be on her.)

to get the Violence Against Women Act. No wonder he was pissed.

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A virtually non-existent twitter user now has one tweet to claim as fame. Seems to be a BS tweet as well.

Not good.

How odd, hmm.

one campaign that had these tactics, complete with bitter lamentations about the “frontrunner.”

....someone at a perfect angle taking photographs and/or videos. This is reminiscent of that woman who cornered Dianne Feinstein a month or two ago.

It’s all too obvious. She needs to learn not to smirk so she comes across as a serious person instead of an actor.

all picked up the moment today when Biden was kindly addressing a protestor by saying this wasn’t a Trump rally and that he would answer their questions and talk to them later. But you are right! The smirk gave her away.

15 minutes on tv 'cause media picked Biden's clip of .. ".. this isn't a trump rally.." to show?!! lol

Thanks for the news!

n/t

These are right-wing tactics like against ACORN and Planned Parenthood.

It is called "AMBUSH" for political scores.

rally is him addressing protestors and saying it wasn’t a Trump rally and he would answer their questions and talk to them later. This gotcha smirker and her camera person didn’t get any coverage.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

didn't get much coverage is considered a "win"?

Not sure what we're competing on.

. . . who the Russian government doesn't want to win!

even if a screen capture in a video...this is an awful look and if he can be baited this easily by Democrats then I have got to question how on earth people expect him to be able to maintain his composure with Trump.

Get this kind of scrutiny. I’ve been disappointed Beto has not gotten any traction. Beto 2028!

right now polls are nothing but name recognition. Jimmy Carter was at 1% right now in the race he won. Beto is exactly where he wants to be...an incredible army of grassroots volunteers who have been out canvassing for 2 months, growing every day and being quite foolishly underestimated by others who place blind faith in the same flawed polls that said Trump would never win.

Biden is not a bad guy but he is one of the sloppiest campaigners there ever has been. He isn't anywhere near as "safe" as many think. Obama was safe. Biden is not Obama. It is what it is.

anything to be able to switch places with him in the polls.

And no one had to tell him not to support the Hyde Amendment. He also came up with his own Climate Plan, but I digress...

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while you're busy tearing down other Democrats' candidate.

Beto is not Obama either. I like him but he is going nowhere this time around.

You're just dwelling on anything negative regarding Joe Biden. He's had a long distinguished career and your word "sloppy" has nothing to do with it.

No one said Ever said that Biden is President Obama. But, right now he has a steady lead.. especially with African Americans and Women.. so excuse us if we want to support him for his qualifications and his experience that are reflected in the current polls.

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Perhaps you should give that same lecture to those sporting Biden avatars who often post on those threads.

At least my comments are actually related to the topic and as a woman I DO find that photo unsettling. It could be in part because I was physically abused, beaten and raped and I am more bothered by something that was done to me as an effort to intimidate me into submission and silence. The photo actually made me feel nauseous. My remarks on this issue are 100% genuine to how I feel and for comments to be made about Beto simply because I am bothered by the photo in the OP is ridiculous.

We haven't even had our first debate, and the mud is flying. Wait until a candidate does a finger wag to another one on a debate stage.

This process of winnowing down to a single nominee is not going to be a pretty one. The eventual nominee is going to get bloodied from "friendly fire" along the way.

All assumed by an anonymous tweeters tweet. Interesting.

I have never had anyone lean in and point that close to my face and it not be angry and aggressive.

None of us were there to see it...and I am saying what it LOOKS like based on the photo alone.

Joe made a mistake in confronting that woman, but, the incident shouldn't be overblown. It will be forgotten by tomorrow and Joe, a seasoned politician, will do better the next time a similar situation arises.


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Perhaps that poster could enlighten us as to the context etc.

Perhaps, the question caught him off guard... no doubt, Joe will be better prepared next time.


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However, somehow it always gets spun as an "attack" on the candidate....

About something. Keep it up- it only reveals the fact that he is a good man

Sounds like “thelocalmaniac8” did the confronting, which is fine, but don’t make standing up for himself sound and look like an attack.

it makes this interaction look far worse than it probably was. It's sloppy.

Joe is doing fine without BSers giving him campaign advice

Do you know who the lady in the middle is?

meaning he... confronted her.

I found a video of the entire speech where the woman in question can be seen during the ENTIRE speech. She was in no way disruptive.

So she is an activist. Every candidate is going to be confronted by people who disagree with them. How they handle is is very important. When is it every acceptable for a presidential candidate to stick their pointed finger like that in a voters' face? Simple...never.

Your profile can say anything you wish it to say. She is a tweeter name and not traceable.

Late and I have to go. Fact is not all woman have their thoughts/ideals in the right place.

I will leave you with this:

Thousands rally for third annual Women's March across U.S.

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....no one other than she said anything about the so-called "incident". But of course it finds its way here with "take it with a grain of salt".

If I thought something should be taken "with a grain of salt" I wouldn't have posted it in the first place.

She can be seen in the video the entire time. It's inherently wrong the way people are attacking this woman without even knowing if she is telling the truth or not.

.....and that "confrontation" isn't shown in the video. So when did the "confrontation" occur? Other than her description of what happened, does anyone else know for sure what did happen?

You can see her during the ENTIRE speech. Her account is that she expressed that we need a candidate that protects women. He responded that no one else is talking about it and no one has done more than him. She said we can do better. That is when he pointed in her face and she said his tone changed, he went to grab her arm with his free hand and made some comment about VAWA. She updated and clarified what happened after she was being ATTACKED by Biden supporters. Initially she did NOT mention most of what she says happened. If her goal was to smear him she would have given those details from the beginning. I hope a video of the actual interaction comes out to get a better understanding of the full interaction. Whatever the case, pointing like that just invited this kind of photo. He's so careless and that seriously worries me if he is the nominee.

That's why I put the disclaimer at the top.

....if it's truly genuine?

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2019/06/11/joe-biden-abortion-hyde-amendment-catholic-iowa-ottumwa-president-candidate-2020-democrat-protest/1422876001/

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Like I said, I don't know the context, just have to take the poster's word for it.

Why do we just have to take their word for it? You admit you do not know the context, yet posted context. Yes you added a disclaimer. Sorry that is not good enough, you sowed the seeds.

Please stop.

They'll be posted. But we are free to post voter reactions, positive or negative.

However, you are not posting any facts, it is here say. Rumor, that now will be spread as fact.

I give up.

She doesn't sound extreme at all.

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forced-birth nutcases. First guy was mid-50s, and started yelling "What about the babies?" repeatedly, before being led out. About 5 minutes later, a couple of shithead young punks, no more than 20, yelled out "Abortion is murder!", before being led out as well. That was it for the melodrama for the evening!

this ambush will be a bust.

Like what happened with Dianne Feinstein.

Contained in the tweet, I suppose? We're supposed to believe K.C.'s 'narration of the scene'?

It couldn't have been taken as he was responding to the last sentence with something like an earnest "I promise you, you will get the BEST from me, okay?", and then he broke into an encouraging smile?

I don't trust twitter, and esp. not people I don't know ...