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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,986 posts)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 09:44 PM Jun 2019

Campaign Conventional Wisdom Is Dead

Bloomberg’s Jonathan Bernstein just published a new piece called, “Is Bernie Finished?” Citing Iowa poll numbers that show poor Sanders “essentially in a three person race for second” (he actually is in second, but whatever), its premise is that Bernie now rests “at the fringes of plausibility.” Worse, he could “fail to reach the delegate threshold” in Iowa, Nevada and South Carolina.

Citing poll wizard Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight, Bernstein paints a dire picture:

“While Sanders is faring somewhat better nationally, that’s mainly because almost all the other candidates remain unknown to voters. As Nate Silver points out, only 8% of Democrats say they’re definitely supporting Sanders…”

This is absurd, and the absurdity isn’t confined to coverage of Bernie Sanders. It’s early, and stupid, to be making pronouncements about any candidate’s viability.

It was silly back in December when a spate of pundits suddenly decided to run “worries abound” stories about Elizabeth Warren whose campaign months later is doing, surprise surprise, just fine.

It was absurd for New York magazine to run “Joe Biden May Be Less Electable Than He Looks” stories in April as he jumped to a big lead in the polls.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/campaign-conventional-wisdom-dead-2020-election-sanders-846978/

This is the kind of stuff that annoys me about campaign coverage. When the media has be a pundit or prognosticator. Just report where the candidates stand on issues and I'll decide.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Campaign Conventional Wisdom Is Dead (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2019 OP
They're opinion pieces. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #1
We won't know if it's silly until it turns out to be silly. the information may be wrong, but that's Nitram Jun 2019 #2
 

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
1. They're opinion pieces.
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:01 PM
Jun 2019

The Bloomberg article, for example, is clearly marked Opinion.

News organizations have been doing opinion pieces about as long as news organizations have been around. They are a common part of campaign coverage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
2. We won't know if it's silly until it turns out to be silly. the information may be wrong, but that's
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:27 PM
Jun 2019

why the polls re showing now. Aren't journalists allowed to express opinions? Anything that suggests we should consider all the candidates seriously at this point is good, isn't? Just say you disagree. Is it "absurd" to say Biden may be less electable than some people think? Is the media just supposed to report each candidate's platform and make no judgements based on other considerations such as previous positions? Is editorializing prohibited?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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