Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBill Maher: Buttigieg a 'little too young' to be president
BY JUSTIN WISE - 06/12/19 10:10 AM EDT
Comedian and commentator Bill Maher on Tuesday said South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg "is a little too young" to be president while pushing pack against criticism of former Vice President Joe Biden.
This is the only country that I can think of in history who doesnt seem to get something very fundamental, which is that in general people older are wiser," Maher, who hosts HBOs Real Time with Bill Maher, said on CNN's "Cumo Prime Time." "Thats the tradeoff of life. Of course there are exceptions. There are dumb old people and smart young people. But in general, yes, Im OK with someone who has learned and grown and seen a lot and has experienced it and has seen patterns."
"I like Mayor Pete but I do think 37 is a little too young," Maher said. "A little bit.
The comments from Maher came as he and CNN host Chris Cuomo talked about Biden's record as a public servant and the criticism he's received for some of the past positions he's taken. Maher acknowledged that Biden was "rotten" to Anita Hill while leading congressional hearings on her sexual harassment accusation against then-Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jezebel321
(278 posts)hypocrisy much?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DrToast
(6,414 posts)He's definitely not your average 37-year-old.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indygram
(2,113 posts)He really should run for a higher profile office first, like governor or Congress.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mobeau69
(11,144 posts)They'll be like "only on candidate has presidential experience". Fuck that, I'll take someone who has less experience as president and is a lot smarter.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MyOwnPeace
(16,927 posts)Nothing wrong with experience (Truman, Nixon {well, his didn't help him!}, Clinton as Governor, Bush as VP, Bush II as Governor), but how well did that work out? Less experience: Obama (2 years as Senator), IQ45 (70 years as a dick).
So, obviously, experience alone isn't a qualifier or dis-qualifier.
What about "smarts?"
Truman (our last president to not attend college): So well read and could quote history without having to write things on his hand!
Clinton: Rhodes Scholar
IQ45: Well, the nickname he's earned says it all!
Mayor Pete: Tons of smarts and I'd vote for him ANY DAY!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)I make up my own mind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
patricia92243
(12,595 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)and he is one of our best allies when it comes to putting the Right Wing in their place.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)to bash liberals and Dems. Not a great ally.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
shanny
(6,709 posts)asshole. He can fuck right off.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)so this notion does not apply to him in the slightest.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)The post Trump era is not going to be a good spot for on the job training. Ultimately people making that calculation is what will probably do Pete in as far as the primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Politicub
(12,165 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Qutzupalotl
(14,313 posts)Although I think Mahers off base here, I generally like him, but your comment cracked me up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)election.
Usually you need to win a statewide election to prove your appeal to voters before gambling on the presidency.
and him as the candidate would be a big gamble.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)running in an election (two of them) and get the most votes, aka being tested electorally?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)a Congressional district or Senate race that's your make believe world, but the rest of live in the real world.
A Congressperson represents about 700,000 people.
A Senator represents the whole state and must get millions of votes.
That is a lot more than 100K
So yes, in a district-wide, statewide, or nationwide election, Pete is UNPROVEN.
There is a reason no Congressperson has won the presidency in the modern era or the last 150 years.
I come from a town in CT with 90K people.
It's not a big place either.
If my hometown mayor said he was running for President, we would have laughed him out of the room.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)proof that your theory/philosophy/ideology of how one gets elected to the Presidency is like a water glass without water in it: empty.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)You're adorable.
you should not be using the worst US President in history as your example here
But it's all equal to you, right?
hahahahahahahahaha
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)it turns out to be) is incapable of accomplishing the same thing or, winning the electoral vote and the popular vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)I noticed you ignored the Russian interference effect for Trump.
You must feel that had no effect for trump's victory.
Trump and Pete are not an apples to apples comparison, no matter how hard you try to make them one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)They both have limited experience, or as they call it in career counseling "non-traditional backgrounds." Both will have proven themselves against the odds and against a field of much more experienced politicians. Both will start with 40-45% of the vote and duke it out for the remaining few centrists while they try to motivate their base. Whatever criteria those voters use to decide, experience is not likely to be one of them.
All other factors -Russia, cheating, electoral college etc. will work against every other Democrat the same way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cwydro
(51,308 posts)So there ya go.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)It must be so confusing for you!
Do you also have a list of whats acceptable for the women to wear in airports? On the trail? In town halls?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TeamPooka
(24,227 posts)But go ahead and take your secret frustration over the matter out on me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It's common for politicians to "roll up their sleeves" and get more casual in the heat and humidity of the south's summer. They look ridiculous all suited up and sweating like pigs.
Even in Court in the old days, lawyers took their jackets off in summer.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)This is a case of wanting to start out at the top. Pete is impressive in many ways but is running mostly on a platform of "out with the old and in with the new". Convenient for him at his age but really just a meaningless campaign slogan. He is a mayor of a small city who has run once - and lost - on a statewide level. He needs to run for Congress and develop a strategy to solving problems that is centered on specifics.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DrToast
(6,414 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)I see a lot of "we need to do this or that" generalities like "Hold the gun industry accountable" with occasional specifics like "Ban military-style assault weapons" that are already part of any Democratic candidates lexicon. I don't see a reason why he should be elevated above many other experienced candidates based on a compelling worldview that includes specifics on how to implement that perspective. Why vote for him in the primaries? Because it's "time for a new generation of leadership in America" slogan? How will his "new generation leadership" be better than the other older, experienced and accomplished candidates Democrats already have. I see no compelling reason to believe that. Rather I see someone wanting to start out at the top.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lark
(23,102 posts)Clinton and Obama weren't much older so this is just stupid. No wonder I don't often watch him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)That is not insignificant.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Oops...I'm getting carried away.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)I don't agree with Maher about Buttigieg being too young, though. Like another poster said, Buttigieg is wiser beyond his years.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)very smart and does have insight and knows things that most political pundits don't. If you've seen him in interviews, he has a broad knowledge of all sorts of political matters and people. I gather that he has a high IQ, reads a lot, and remembers everything.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,280 posts)I still do not understand what Mayor Pete has accomplished that qualifies him to be POTUS
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,310 posts)I love what I've seen from the guy and I think his candidate performance so far has earned him the right for an appointment to a high post in the Biden administration so he can show what he can do on the national level. He's earned the right to begin to gain the qualifications necessary to attain in the future the job he's running for today. He has a great future ahead of him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,280 posts)I agree with your analysis
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Qutzupalotl
(14,313 posts)and far more military experience.
Pete makes a good point when he says mayors have to be visible and accountable to their constituents, which is something you dont often see in presidents. Mayors have to handle a myriad of issues that legislators might never address, which gives them a broader perspective on the role and scope of government in peoples lives; they see the consequences of their decisions with an immediacy that someone in higher levels of government might not. (Pete says this better than I can. Im sure he will address this in the debates.)
The last two Democratic presidents have been brilliant scholars, and we did well under them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)about our candidates
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Clash City Rocker
(3,396 posts)Trump is a decade older, and hes an idiot.
Teddy Roosevelt and JFK were pretty good presidents, despite not being particularly old. Reagan was very old indeed, and he was terrible.
I disagree with the premise that age makes anyone more fit for the office. Evidence suggests otherwise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)He has a keen mind. That's just a fact.
One doesn't have to be very smart to be President, though. Although that helps.
63 would be a good age for a Presidential candidate. 77-81 is another matter.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SWBTATTReg
(22,129 posts)somewhat middle sized city may not be the experience one has with the senate or house of representatives, but when the number of bills being passed by either house (the house since in democratic control has been passing quite a few bills compared to the republican controlled senate) is next to zero, and it seems most of these senators' time is being spend in sitting on committees mouthing off (not the democratic senators/representations), I'd say running a city via the job of mayor is great experience.
And with the idiot rump being 72 years old?! Look at what this idiot has done in a little over 2+ years. A giant tax break for his 1%ers buddies, and that's about it. He's mouthed off at just about everybody, no one wants to deal with motor mouth/gutter mouth, and he failing in every category of dealing with effective and efficient government. His actions are not planned/coordinated as recent press articles have mentioned and thus, he fails at everything. He's insulting our allies right and left, and his ego and personal cravings are getting in the way.
Crap, I almost wish a 12 year old girl scout or boy scout is president. They would do a far better job than worthless rump. But, being realistic, I'll take Pete, at 37 years old. If the framers of the constitution and our amendments thought that 37 years old is too young to be president, they would have said so.
They didn't. We need at minimum, NO trump. Doubled and redoubled.
Age is not equated with wisdom...believe me, I've (and we all have at DU) known some idiots older than I and younger than I, do stupid and idiotic things.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
shanny
(6,709 posts)is helplessness, not wisdom. eom
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The River
(2,615 posts)more mistaken if you tried.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Learned helplessness is not an issue At All. Excellent!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MFM008
(19,814 posts)🤔🤔🤔
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marlakay
(11,468 posts)Said great things for weeks..I think he is afraid far left dems might not vote for Biden and he is starting early talking good about him.
Believe me Bill is all about pot and many other things most of the others are going for. He just is scared this time of having Trump again.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)I think some of the Mayor Pete supporters are taking this too personally. I know youre not, but i think some are.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marlakay
(11,468 posts)Have watched him since ABC show. Yes he has some opinions I dont share but I agree on most things.
I dont know if Pete has a chance just know I like him, will vote for any dem.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)The whole coaching the Democrats thing is tiresome for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marlakay
(11,468 posts)That Trump might win again if all of us dont work together even harder this time. I admit I voted for Hillary but didnt work on her campaign like I did Bernie.
This time no matter who wins I will make calls knock on doors, I think that is how he feels.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)He's crackerjack smart. Being smart doesn't mean you're right. I just know that he's very intelligent and must remember everything he's ever read. He knows facts and dates and all sorts of things about politics that even political pundits don't remember.
I think he's so funny. I don't agree with everything he says, but there's no funnier political satirist in the world.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Paladin
(28,262 posts)Stephen Robinson's column gets it exactly right: jerk-offs like Maher's principle gripe against trump is that he was such a shitty candidate that he forced them to cast votes for Hillary, and they can't get over it.
And quit watching Maher's show! He is unworthy of the ratings you're giving him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DavidDvorkin
(19,479 posts)To raise the minimum age to be president?
That would be the logical next step.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RLG
(314 posts)to be used for Buttigieg to run for governor or Congress in Indiana.
Fair is fair.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
smb
(3,471 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
samnsara
(17,622 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
randr
(12,412 posts)Again
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dlk
(11,566 posts)Everyone has one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(32,705 posts)get him this time around. I'm really impressed by him, but sometimes I have a brief flash where I see him as a young guy imitating President Obama. It's not fair, I know, but because of his age, people might question whether he's too good to be true and err on the side of caution.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It's not that a candidate is older (in his 60s). It's that he really is "getting on in years," as they say. No one has ever been elected President at Biden's age (he'll be 77 at election time, 81 at end of 4 years). Reminder: Reagan was 70, was re-elected at 74, and had the symptoms of Alzheimer's such that they couldn't hide it well in his second term. Was it wise for him to run for re-election?
It's not being mean or discriminatory to Biden. It really is a valid issue to many people. But it looks like he's going to be the nominee, so it is what it is. They'll keep his forgetfulness and other things a secret as much as they can, like they did for Reagan. But be aware, since he'll be vulnerable to being easily manipulated. Jill, nice and protective as she is, may not be an iron maiden like Nancy Reagan, who I think was able to keep the bears at bay.
When Reagan testified before Congress on the Iran-Contra Affair, he said "I don't remember" to many questions. People thought he was lying, but as it turned out, he probably really didn't remember much of what had happened.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)Hes over 35.
The PM in New Zealand is in her late 30s and doing alright.
Depends on the person
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden