Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumOpinion: Democrats must reject failed, boring electability notions to beat Trump in 2020
The conventional definition of electability hinges on centrism and moderation and so far for 2020, on consensus and restraint. But in the most recent Democratic Party failures of 2004 and 2016, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton passed this test during the primary season only to disprove the thesis in the general election.
The Democrats in 2008 backed Barack Obama in spite of his comparatively little government experience and fears of racism diminishing his viability. Likewise, Donald Trump confounded his own establishments skepticism of his first-time candidacy even as he adhered to the most radical orthodoxy of the right.
The freshness and novelty proved an asset not a liability for Obama and Trump. While not hailing from major battleground states themselves, Obama and Trump galvanized enormous grassroots energy in their respective bases to turn out historic margins in decisive metropolises and rural communities.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/06/12/2020-democratic-nominee-boring-candidate-wont-beat-trump-column/1410189001/
Thoughts?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)Biden/Harris It's a numbers game.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)of both Russian hacking and the "normal" reTHUGlican election operation. I don't see how we can leave that out of any comparative equation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,250 posts)they supported got the same support from Russia.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,288 posts)The concept that this election is a lock and that the Democratic Party can nominate a far left out of touch candidate is not the real world. If the economy does not falter (and trump is working hard to kill the Obama economy), then this will be a close race.
If the choice is between nominating a very far left progressive candidate or winning, I want to win
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LibFarmer
(772 posts)He is big on tearing everything down to allow every radical idea to be inserted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,250 posts)while they propped up her opponents ( trump, Sanders,
srein) who all attacked her. and she still got millions more votes than them.
if other candidates have what Obama does then they will do better.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)a result of Russias cyber attack, Kerrys loss highly suspect, and that Obama was a left to center candidate, a pretty centrist president. He was not considered electable until he had the numbers.
We are not lemmings. We do not choose left to center candidates to fulfill some misguided myth.
How some left to centers do have a wide appeal across many voting constituencies in the Democratic Party, among independents, and with swing voters should be obvious. The country as a
whole is not extremely left or extremely right.
The Novelty, or gotta hava gimmick, keep it fresh element does not in and of itself win elections. We did not take a huge risk in nominating Obama. He was the most outstanding candidate for many reasons. He also had a political campaign strategy the likes of which we had not seen before.
To this day, Democrats and independents who identify as left of the party establishment are disappointed that his policies and style of governing were not more progressive and aggressive.
Nonetheless this radically intelligent, charismatic, and decent leader, a centrist by most estimations today, remains one of the most popular presidents of the last several decades.
I think its pretty new that three top Dem candidates are seventy and over. Wow, dude, thats the cats pajamas!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DrToast
(6,414 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden