Not Working out so well with People who are able to see right through it.

Thank You for all your research, highplainsdem! Whew!

Sad sad sad..

I can't possibly keep up. It's like trying to hit cockroaches with a rubber slipper -- they keep coming back. Raid just gives them a hangover.

You may notice I am a bit perturbed. Actually it is making me furious to see it here.

Guess I should have expected that this would find its way here, but it still makes me angry. DU should be a safe place for all Democrats, but lately that has been called into question, at least for me.

If we dont elect a Democrat we deserve to be destroyed and we WILL be.

I’ve had some doubts about that outfit for a while now.

Excellent OP, introducing truth to the "fake news"!

That turned out to be more of a plea for attention than anything.

too. The BS supporter.. only I couldn't remember who she attacked.

Now it all comes rushing back.. that was horrible and didn't work out so well for Leen Dweik's gaslighting Chelsea Clinton, either.

Video with activist...woman with red hair behind him
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heckling video:
The Hecker was in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOCATION...and the woman who posted the photo was NOT the heckler.




If you look at the first video...that woman was NOT disrupting Biden's speech at all. She even clapped at the end.

The video was from two different sources. One showed the heckler in the opposite direction. The woman who posted the photo was by the men in the hats behind Biden, and he moves a little after the heckler and you can see her. On the other thread people are and were accusing this woman of being disruptive and heckling and she was NOT. False claims about her is most like leading to her getting all kinds of threats on twitter and it is WRONG. All she did was ask him a tough question just like any other candidate gets and he reacted poorly.

to do with her waiting in line with a camera friend to capture her closeup moment. She clearly had motives to get a gotcha moment and she is building and revising her story around that motive.

Its notable that yesterday she was whining about Biden as a frontrunner, so that is a good insight into her motives—his frontrunner status. We’ve seen this before and these people can’t keep their stories straight.

that she confronted Biden AFTER his speech, and she and her friends left after she ended that encounter shouting at him.

Aside from maybe Bernie Sanders none of the others react so defensively. I don't know if it's a generational thing or what...but it was not how a candidate should react...no matter WHICH one it was. If it was Beto I would say the same thing. What is even worse is how people are attacking her and some are even saying things that are not true. That puts her in danger. It's disturbing to me.

straight. The smirk she's wearing in the only photo she posted makes it appear that she was very clearly delighted about antagonizing him, and doing so at close range in a selfie line, where other people who wanted to meet him, people who were there for sincere reasons, were waiting for their chance to talk to him.

This wasn't a town hall. She ambushed him in a selfie line, and she's given conflicting versions of what was said.


Editing to add that I am sorry anyone confused her with a heckler causing trouble during the speech. I didn't confuse her with a heckler, though.

to do with the viral negative picture. Where is the footage of the question and answer portion of the rally? That would give us the proof in the pudding. What was posted shows a pretty low key rally presentation.

But VP Biden was heckled by a man in one rally.. and apparently confronted by a woman who was the subject of this op in the selfie line.. as she said herself.. sooo.. both things happened at the same rally?

He was heckled by a man and a woman...but NOT the woman who posted the photo. She was standing behind him, and in one video the angle of the camera only shows her when he moves a bit to the side. In the other video she is visible the entire time. She did NOT disrupt anything. She even clapped at the end of his speech.

Based on what I took from reading her comments...she got in line because she wanted to say that women deserve a candidate who protects women and ask that assault survivors be protected. She hoped to have a serious discussion with him about the issue. He responded by saying that no one has done more than him while shaking his finger at her. When he turned around she shouted that "we deserve better." I can't recall the exact wording but to me it sounded like a woman who cares about the issue and wanted to let Biden know how she felt and he reacted defensively. Now she is being attacked. I don't think that is OK.

either, simply by quoting her to point out inconsistencies in her story. Or by pointng out that she's edited video of the encounter, presumably made by one of her friends, extremely selectively to try to hurt Biden.

I posted what I did to try to prevent it from happening. It's fine to disagree with the woman's opinion...but the way she is being attacked is wrong.

As if to say she didn't disrupt his speech so therefore everything else must be fine.

It's pretty weird why you keep trying to make that linkage between two separate events.

It's like someone who has run a red light and you saying yeah but I have video of the red lights before she didn't run.

exposed for trying too hard to "smear" Vice President Biden.. as explained quite well in the OP.

she hardly has any Bernie tweets at all, and a LOT of Warren, Harris, Booker, Pete, and other candidates tweets

her twitter is fair bog standard of an LGBTQ/frminist activist youg student, there certainly are no Berner bombings


see this, I go into fairly deep depth (I went through her entire Twitter feed, back to last fall)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=150001

Biden does look a bit aggressive in the action video gif of it, btw

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....the "confrontation" occurred AFTER the video ended. AFTER!

What a dumbass.

Her stunt makes zero sense.

Asking for a friend.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/bernie-sanderss-many-finger-wags/2016/02/12/cf9feb4c-d154-11e5-90d3-34c2c42653ac_video.html?utm_term=.f25f1369d955

But it happens from time to time; especially among the older set.

the video, live action gif shows he is repeatedly doing it

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is it acceptable now. It used to be the outrage of all outrages.

We all justifiably become frustrated when we see Trump supporters twist themselves into pretzels in order to defend his bad behavior. While this is not anywhere near the same level as most of what Trump does, let's not ever risk mirroring that same kind of excuse making. It's not a good look.


And with that, I'm trashing this thread because I'm so NOT okay with the kind of hatred and ugly remarks I'm seeing posted about her on social media. I hope others will re-think things.

Sounds like the person using Trump-like tactics is the tweeter who misrepresented the exchange.

is Wrong.. no one is "slandering" KC.. she's being exposed for trying too hard to smear Vice President Biden.

As has been explained to you multiple times.

First it was the "back" of her head, then when someone pointed out that he's about a foot taller than her it was changed to the "top" of head.

Both, by the way, are/were Sanders supporters. Hmmmmm.

between David Sirota and KC in the weeks prior.

Also, all financial transactions ... especially those in rubles.

see her self-servicing motives for attention, along with her whining yesterday about Biden’s frontrunner status. We’ve seen this before...

I thought it was the right to life one...didn't ocurr to me that someone nominally on our side would stoop so low with such an attack...with friends like this you know the rest...this won't end well for her...welcome to the political wilderness where her lies and manipulations will land her.

I don't think it happened even close to how she stated. Before the "famous" tweet she actually tweeted that it was uneventful. She has almost no noticeable action outside of this on her twitter account. A couple of likes here and there.

This is a part of the "lefts" scorched earth campaign.

I‘m part of the left and want nothing to do with this woman, KC. It’s a certain subset of a certain candidates supporters who are behind the smears, not the left.

There is a reason quotation marks were put around the word left in my post.

"It’s a certain subset of a certain candidates supporters who are behind the smears"

That certain subset always bills themselves as being the leftiest.

I agree that certain people try and co-opt the label.

And who trained who to do what, where? And more importantly, why ?

Also, may I say that her well publicized tweet speaks for itself, and that you appear to be admitting that she went to this rally with the intention of pulling a stunt, and that there are others involved, and that you know who they are.

So by all means let's hear the whole story.

a dialogue about the “frontrunner” which was clearly her motive, along with her photographer pal who was with her to capture her closeup.

This wasn’t about women’s issues or “questions”. It was about creating a dustup that she and other folks such as yourself who don’t prefer Biden can use to continue to create damaging narrative about him. C’mon! Quit insulting our intelligence. It gets really old.

and there is no question in my mind that this was a setup orchestrated by David Sirota.

she has far more Warren and Pete ad Harris and AOC/Tlaib/Omar tweets than any about Bernie ( 1 Bernie tweet in the past 3, 4 months and 3 retweets from February (when he officially announced) nothing before that)

Unless you have proof of her actually being a Bernie supporter (some supporter, she has one tweet on Bernie in the past 3, 4 months and 3 retweets out of hundreds) I think you are making it up to fit a really dodgy narrative


she seems to go to multiple candidate events, and certainly is not dropping 'Berner bombs' on her feed

Berners (especially those who would work with Sirota (I have seen that slander tossed out her, insulating she is on the Russian payroll) would never post so many pro Warren, pro Yang, pro-Booker, pro Buttigieg things, pro Harris things and literally almost nothing about Bernie (one pic of him at a rally she was at plus several long ago retweets when he jumped in)

I see nothing to indicate she is a Bernie supporter inn the sense that you are slanting things at all and I went all the way to the begging of her tweets

she seems far more pro Warren and Harris and Pete

and there is also no way for you to spin this that makes Biden look good

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I’ve got a bill for that. My affordable housing plan will build 3M+ new housing units AND create a competitive grant program as an incentive for local governments to eliminate unnecessary zoning laws & land use restrictions that drive up costs.

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Warren’s nonstop ideas reshape the Democratic presidential race — and give her new momentum

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Thanks to everyone who turned out for our picnic in Cedar Rapids before the @iowademocrats Hall of Fame dinner.

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After 9/11 we all said we were changed. That we were stronger and more united. That’s what “never forget” was about. Now, a president uses that dark day to incite his base against a member of Congress, as if for sport. As if we learned nothing that day about the workings of hate.

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The @USWNT is #1 in the world & contributes higher revenues for @USSoccer than the men’s team, but they’re still paid a fraction of what the men earn. Women deserve equal pay for equal (or better!) work in offices, factories, AND on the soccer field.

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The President is inciting violence against a sitting Congresswoman—and an entire group of Americans based on their religion. It's disgusting. It's shameful. And any elected leader who refuses to condemn it shares responsibility for it.

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Our nation's leaders should have acted to end gun violence after Sandy Hook.
After Charleston.
After San Bernardino.
After Pulse.
After Sutherland Springs.
After Las Vegas.
After the Tree of Life Synagogue.
After Parkland.
After Thousand Oaks.

How many more?

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LGBTQ Americans deserve equal protection under the law.
LGBTQ Americans deserve equal protection under the law.
LGBTQ Americans deserve equal protection under the law.

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I voted no on Trump's nominee to lead the EPA: Andrew Wheeler. After questioning him in a hearing I have no confidence he will champion the mission of the EPA. He doesn't understand the urgency of climate change or the important fight for environmental justice. We must do better.

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If we can pay for enormous tax cuts for billionaires, we can pay for healthcare for 9/11 first responders. End of story.

Congress needs to renew the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund and make it permanent now. #Renew911VCF

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Omaha elder and Vietnam War veteran Nathan Phillips endured hateful taunts with dignity and strength, then urged us all to do better.

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It's official, I'm running for president. Hope to see you in Oakland: http://kamalaharris.org

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Let me be very clear: the hundreds of thousands of federal government workers who aren’t getting their paychecks are not bargaining chips. The President must end this senseless shutdown immediately and reopen the government.

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Right now, a single parent can be held in jail for a nonviolent offense awaiting trial for weeks, months, or even years. Why? Simply because they cannot afford to pay bail. That’s just wrong.

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Has Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh had a conversation about Robert Mueller or his investigation with anyone at Trump's personal attorney's law firm?

We don’t know. He refused to answer my question.

Of course she is undercover !!

We have Bernie supporters on DU who show that they're undecided or supporting other candidates.

After the Lucy Flores fiasco, Sirota is now using operatives who have distanced themselves from Bernie.

Good job on the meaningless research though.

You just are tossing shit and seeing if it will stick to the wall.

Sad

Let‘s not get all tin foil hat here.

emails when he joined Bernie’s campaign. What is he hiding or trying to revise??

Also it’s bordering and not boarding.

I frankly enjoyed Biden putting the crank in her place. You can tell she wasn’t accustomed to being challenged on her views. At any rate it won’t help Bernie.