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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:23 AM Jun 2019

NYT Magazine: Elizabeth Warren Is Completely Serious

TR Roosevelt: "Instead of instruments to promote the general welfare, (political parties) have become the tools of corrupt interests which use them impartially to serve their selfish purposes ... To destroy this invisible government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.'" Progressive Party Platform 1912.

Elizabeth Warren: "When government works only for the wealthy and well-connected, that is corruption — plain and simple. It’s time to fight back. Corruption is a cancer on our democracy. And we will get rid of it only with strong medicine — with real, structural reform. Our fight is to change the rules so that our government, our economy, and our democracy work for everyone. Announcement Speech, February 9, 2019

“There’s a concerted effort to equate Warren with Bernie, to make her seem more radical,” but Wall Street and its allies “are more afraid of her than Bernie because when she says she’ll change the rules, she’s the one who knows how to do it.” Economist Luigi Zingales.

Elizabeth Warren Is Completely Serious is a major feature by Emily Bazelon published in the New York Times Magazine. It is not behind a pay wall and is well worth reading.

The New Work Times Magazine, June 17, 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/17/magazine/elizabeth-warren-president.html

Elizabeth Warren Is Completely Serious

About income inequality. About corporate power. About corrupt politics. And about being America’s next president.

(snip) For her entire career, Warren’s singular focus has been the growing fragility of America’s middle class. She made the unusual choice as a law professor to concentrate relentlessly on data, and the data that alarms her shows corporate profits creeping up over the last 40 years while employees’ share of the pie shrinks. This shift occurred, Warren argues, because in the 1980s, politicians began reworking the rules for the market to the specifications of corporations that effectively owned the politicians. In Warren’s view of history, “The constant tension in a democracy is that those with money will try to capture the government to turn it to their own purposes.” Over the last four decades, people with money have been winning, in a million ways, many cleverly hidden from view. That’s why economists have estimated that the wealthiest top 0.1 percent of Americans now own nearly as much as the bottom 90 percent.

(snip) “Ask me who my favorite president is,” Warren said. When I paused, she said, “Teddy Roosevelt.” Warren admires Roosevelt for his efforts to break up the giant corporations of his day — Standard Oil and railroad holding companies — in the name of increasing competition. She thinks that today that model would increase hiring and productivity. Warren, who has called herself “a capitalist to my bones,” appreciated Roosevelt’s argument that trustbusting was helpful, not hostile, to the functioning of the market and the government. She brought up his warning that monopolies can use their wealth and power to strangle democracy. “If you go back and read his stuff, it’s not only about the economic dominance; it’s the political influence,” she said.

What’s crucial, Roosevelt believed, is to make the market serve “the public good.” Warren puts it like this: “It’s structural change that interests me. And when I say structural, the point is to say if you get the structures right, then the markets start to work to produce value across the board, not just sucking it all up to the top.”

(snip) Warren is often serious and doesn’t hesitate to convey her moral outrage. “I’ll own it,” she told me about her anger. She talked about women expressing to her their distress about sexual harassment and assault. “Well, yeah,” Warren said. “No kidding that a woman might be angry about that. Women have a right to be angry about being treated badly.”

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
1. Damn right Elizabeth Warren is completely serious! She and Bernie are easily the most qualified team
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:30 AM
Jun 2019

of candidates to take on the shitstain currently occupying the White House!!


Elizabeth & Bernie 2020, or
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! Either way...
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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blm

(113,065 posts)
2. I was not too surprised to see Warren under attack at other sites by
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:17 AM
Jun 2019

people who claim to be Sanders supporters. My friends who are in the Sanders camp would never target Warren or call her a corporate whore, so, I am assuming there are RW operatives trolling social media posing as Sanders voters. I expect they’ll soon start posing as Warren supporters to troll against Sanders, too. Let’s stay alert.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
14. I hear ya... you know the old sayin about catching flak!!
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 01:55 PM
Jun 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
9. She was excoriated by Sanders supporters when she endorsed Hillary. (nt)
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:32 AM
Jun 2019
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KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
10. She was excoriated before that, for refusing to endorse during the primary
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 11:03 AM
Jun 2019

I don't know if you saw the comments on any and all Facebook posts she made, no matter how unrelated to the primary they were, but I can tell you, they were vile and utterly disgusting. They hated her for refusing to endorse Senator Sanders in the primary, for not denouncing Secretary Clinton, and for saying "no" when they tried to draft her. Of course, those of us who knows anything about misogyny knew that their claim that they weren't sexist because they would vote for Warren would evaporate like dew in sunshine the moment Senator Warren declared her candidacy. It's never the woman with a chance to win they support, only the woman not running or with a snowball's chance in hell of winning (Stein, Gabbard) they support. They simply cannot handle the thought of a woman in power, real power.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
11. I saw the posts on her FB page. They were disgusting.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 11:07 AM
Jun 2019

To the dualistic mindset you are pure or you are evil. Nothing in between.


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MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
13. Yeah, no.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 11:56 AM
Jun 2019

Warren would never pick Sanders as her running mate.

“I am not a Democratic Socialist”.

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Blues Heron

(5,938 posts)
3. Here's a grown adult that was really into Reagan
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:28 AM
Jun 2019

You have to wonder about her judgement skills. Anybody that couldn't see that clown for what he was ....

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hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
12. That's quite a nasty remark with nothing to back it up.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 11:37 AM
Jun 2019
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blm

(113,065 posts)
15. GOP was still transitioning at the time and there were still liberal leaning
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 02:23 PM
Jun 2019

Republicans then. The Newt Gingrich takeover is when those remaining liberals lost influence and left.

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Demit

(11,238 posts)
4. I'm afraid the article is behind a paywall after all.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:30 AM
Jun 2019

I clicked and was told I'd reached my limit of free articles.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
5. Sorry, didn't trigger me.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:40 AM
Jun 2019

The latest version of Crome (but not safari) will let you through on incognito mode, but I had no trouble with regular safari. YMMV.

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Demit

(11,238 posts)
6. I've had success with Firefox, getting in. But the NYT is constantly catching up.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:49 AM
Jun 2019

Yeah, it was via regular Safari that I was blocked. I'll try my different nefarious methods later

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
7. She would make a fine POTUS nt
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:53 AM
Jun 2019
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nycbos

(6,034 posts)
8. Of course she is serious and don't call her Shirley.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 09:58 AM
Jun 2019

Couldn't resist.

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VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
17. A Warren/Buttigieg ticket...
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:19 PM
Jun 2019

Would set us up for years to come!

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