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Related: About this forumDemocrats don't need to tack right on immigration to win
Pundits like David Frum and Andrew Sullivan want Democrats to move right on immigration. Theyre wrong.
By Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp zack@vox.com Jun 17, 2019, 8:40am EDT
In the years since Trumps victory, a cottage intellectual industry has sprung up arguing that Democrats and European center-left parties need to move right on immigration if they want to win.
Its proponents include anti-Trump conservative writers like David Frum and Andrew Sullivan (themselves both immigrants to the United States), center-right academics like Oxfords Paul Collier and University of Londons Eric Kaufmann, and even a few leftists like essayist Angela Nagle. The basic argument is pretty consistent: Theres a rising populist revolt against mass immigration in the West, and liberals need to adjust to this reality rather than try to fight it.
This industry has gone into overdrive in recent weeks, driven largely by the results of Denmarks early June election. Denmarks center-left Social Democratic Party (SDP), which had tacked hard right on immigration in recent years, defeated the conservative incumbent and won the most seats in parliament while the far-right populist Danish Peoples Party (DPP) lost more than half of its support. This, the immigration skeptics argue, is proof that they are right: Democrats and other center-left parties can co-opt Trump and the European far right simply by leaning into their anti-migrant bona fides.
Imagine if [Elizabeth] Warren were to model her campaign on the newly elected social democrats in Denmark, Sullivan writes. A Democratic adoption of tighter immigration policies and less stridently leftist cultural stances could dominate [among many voters].
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/17/18679070/democrats-immigration-shift-right-bad
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rampartc
(5,412 posts)such a policy might make sense given the levels of cheap labor desired by corporate America, and the expense of running a parallel criminal justice system to enforce the border, open borders, along with covering all immigrants with our fair labor standards and occupational safety and health regulations would remove the competitive advantage of "illegal" labor. but my real point is that.
enforcement of existing laws in a humane manner is not "open borders" and should serve to begin a rational reform of the system to 21st century reality.
i'm no expert on what is left center or right on this issue, and could probably use an update in what would be a rational post trump policy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pecosbob
(7,541 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)David Frum? Andrew Sullivan? Sullivan can stuff it, Warren is never going to do that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)ideology.
I do not think those who believe in America First, oppose global trade, criticized the TPP, etc., are best to handle a reasonable immigration policy. Better than trump, definitely, but I don't like the way "Economic Patriotism" sounds. Hope both candidates moderate on that nonsense.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden