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Otto Lidenbrock

(581 posts)
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:13 PM Jun 2019

Biden's speech at the Civil Rights Commission Nomination Hearing in 1983

First some context into the hearing:


In 1981 President Ronald Reagan, looking to move the commission in a more conservative direction, appointed Clarence M. Pendleton, Jr., as the first black chairman of the Commission. A Howard University graduate, he was a conservative who opposed affirmative action and many of the Commission's activities. Pendleton reduced its staff and programs.[10]

In 1983, Reagan attempted to fire three members of the commission. They sued the administration in federal court to stay on. The authorizing legislation stated that a president could only fire a commissioner for "misbehavior in office," and it was clear that the terminations were the result of disagreements over policy. A compromise brokered in the Senate resulted in the current hybrid group of eight, half appointed by the president and half by the Congress, with six-year terms that do not expire with the inauguration of a new president. Since that time the commission has struggled to remain independent, and its agenda has oscillated between liberal and conservative aims as factions among its members have ebbed and waned.


The United States Commission on Civil Rights said today it was ''disappointed and concerned'' that President Reagan had not appointed more blacks, women and Hispanic Americans to full-time, high-level positions in the Federal Government.

The commission's appraisal came less than three weeks after Mr. Reagan announced his intention to replace three members of the panel. It follows 19 months of growing conflict between the White House and commission members who have defiantly questioned the President's commitment to civil rights in education and employment, among other fields. All six members, including the chairman, Clarence M. Pendleton Jr., voted in favor of the statement today.


This clip of Biden speaking at the hearing was for the nomination of Reagan's nominees as Reagan tried to politicise the commission for his own benefit.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4804001/biden-civil-rights-commission

Interestingly he mentions he was strongly in favour of affirmative action. We know he opposed busing but I hadn't heard about affirmative action before. Reagan's appointed chairman opposed it as mentioned above.

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Biden's speech at the Civil Rights Commission Nomination Hearing in 1983 (Original Post) Otto Lidenbrock Jun 2019 OP
Lots of people opposed busing after they saw it in practice, including Sanders and AA community emulatorloo Jun 2019 #1
I know that Otto Lidenbrock Jun 2019 #2
Absolutely, well said. emulatorloo Jun 2019 #8
Mahalo, emulatorloo.. Cha Jun 2019 #3
busing was a disaster, and failed miserably. still_one Jun 2019 #4
I don't know the details, Mr.Bill Jun 2019 #5
It wasn't so much the cost, it turned out to have the reverse effect of what it intended to do still_one Jun 2019 #6
That is inaccurate. Sanders did not oppose busing and he was arrested for protesting CentralMass Jun 2019 #7
Bernie Sanders opposed busing in 1974. He said it created racial hostility emulatorloo Jun 2019 #9
 

emulatorloo

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1. Lots of people opposed busing after they saw it in practice, including Sanders and AA community
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:17 PM
Jun 2019

It seemed like a good idea but It turned out to be a less than ideal solution.

Context is important. I know some people want to ‘destroy’ Biden with this, but voters know better

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Otto Lidenbrock

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2. I know that
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:21 PM
Jun 2019

My point was his view on busing is well reported but his support of Affirmative Action is not. This was 1983. Affirmative action is a polarising issue in our country today so I give Biden some props to that.

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Cha

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3. Mahalo, emulatorloo..
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:30 PM
Jun 2019

Thank you for clarifying that.

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still_one

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4. busing was a disaster, and failed miserably.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:40 PM
Jun 2019
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Mr.Bill

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5. I don't know the details,
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:53 PM
Jun 2019

but it seems to me it would be a big financial burden on smaller school districts. Those busses don't run for free and you can't charge kids for riding them.

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still_one

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6. It wasn't so much the cost, it turned out to have the reverse effect of what it intended to do
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:16 PM
Jun 2019
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CentralMass

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7. That is inaccurate. Sanders did not oppose busing and he was arrested for protesting
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 02:36 AM
Jun 2019

school segregation in 1963.

In fact Bernie recently proposed a Thurgood Marshall Plan for public education that calls for a renewal and expansion of desegregation plans by means of transportation,

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emulatorloo

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9. Bernie Sanders opposed busing in 1974. He said it created racial hostility
Sat Jun 22, 2019, 11:13 AM
Jun 2019



Busing had a lot of unintended consequences.

And yes Bernie was arrested for protesting school segregation.

Neither Sanders nor Biden have a racist bone in their bodies.
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