Democratic Primaries

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,035 posts) Thu Feb 21, 2019, 03:22 PM Feb 2019

Is Putin attacking Sanders, Harris and Warren to help Trump?

Special counsel Robert Mueller should be called as an expert witness to testify before Congress about the Russian attacks against the American election in 2016, the attempted Russian attacks against the midterm election in 2018 and the potential Russian attacks against the presidential election in 2020.

In one of the most important stories about the 2020 presidential campaign, there is now strong evidence of concerted social media attacks against leading liberal Democratic candidates for president.
The sources of these attacks are almost certainly seeking to undermine Democratic opponents of President Trump in the 2020 election, perhaps to help Trump get re-elected.

Recent news stories suggest a pattern of aggressive social media attacks aimed at Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and former Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas). These attacks are similar to Russian attacks against Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential campaign.

The Politico story, discussed on a recent Rachel Maddow show on MSNBC, details this pattern of attacks and quotes experts on the subject.

The various reports about these social media attacks against Democratic presidential candidates suggest that some originate from foreign sources and that they may or may not involve coordination.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/430952-is-putin-attacking-sanders-harris-and-warren-to-help-trump

Not sure if this belongs in the primary forum or not. But since it involves primary candidates I'm putting it here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Is Putin attacking Sanders, Harris and Warren to help Trump? (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 OP

Is Putin attacking ....? Does the sun rise in the east? Is Fox the channel of Faux "News"? n/t SFnomad Feb 2019 #1

Does Santa come once a year? ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2019 #2

Putin was successful with this trick before Gothmog Feb 2019 #3

Obviously. IluvPitties Feb 2019 #4

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)

1. Is Putin attacking ....? Does the sun rise in the east? Is Fox the channel of Faux "News"? n/t

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 03:27 PM

Feb 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)

2. Does Santa come once a year?

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 03:32 PM

Feb 2019

I think we all know what the answer to the post question is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)

3. Putin was successful with this trick before

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:06 PM

Feb 2019

Putin and Russia flooded sites like JPR and other sanders sites with fake news to hurt Clinton https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-fake-news-russia_us_58c34d97e4b0ed71826cdb36

Last June, John Mattes started noticing something coursing like a virus through the Facebook page he helped administer for Bernie Sanders fans in San Diego. People with no apparent ties to California were friending the page and sharing links from unfamiliar sites full of anti-Hillary Clinton propaganda.

The stories they posted weren’t the normal complaints he was used to seeing as the Vermont senator and the former secretary of state fought out the Democratic presidential primary. These stories alleged that Clinton had murdered her political opponents and used body doubles.

Mattes, 66, had been a television reporter and Senate investigator in previous lives. He put his expertise in unmasking fraudsters to work. At first, he suspected that the sites were created by the old Clinton haters from the ‘90s ― what Hillary Clinton had dubbed “the vast right-wing conspiracy.”

But when Mattes started tracking down the sites’ domain registrations, the trail led to Macedonia and Albania. In mid-September, he emailed a few of his private investigator friends with a list of the sites. “Very creepy and i do not think Koch brothers,” he wrote.

At one point, JPR had a half dozen threads on the greatest page of that website pushing the pizzagate story. After being laughed at on DU, the JPR site eventually ban pizzagate stories which were replaced by numerous other stories from Russia including some claiming that Clinton was dying

See also Russia Duped Bernie Fans via Facebook, San Diego Dems Toldhttps://timesofsandiego.com/politics/2017/03/23/russia-duped-bernie-fans-via-facebook-san-diego-dems-told/

Oliver Mitov was dispatched by the Kremlin to get Bernie Sanders fans to vote third-party in the November election, write in the Democratic primary loser for president — or not vote at all.

John Mattes speaks to San Diego Democrats for Equality, the the predominantly gay club in Hillcrest. Photo by Ken Stone
But investigative journalist John Mattes, describing how fake stories on Facebook helped defeat Hillary Clinton, isn’t sure who Mitov is.

“He may be a bot. He may be a person [or four]. He may be living in Macedonia, laughing,” Mattes told a rapt audience of 90 Thursday night in Hillcrest.
But Mitov’s thousands of posts — and similar ones from Albania and elsewhere — duped just enough of the 13 million Sanders supporters to hand the election to Donald Trump and prove Russia could hack American democracy, said the 66-year-old resident of Pacific Beach.
A major Sanders organizer in Southern California himself, Mattes admitted that “we were played.”

Again, Mueller has documented the support that Russia gave to Sanders. I trust Mueller on this.

Again, many voters will want to know why Putin and Russia put some much effort into promoting sanders

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)

4. Obviously.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:07 PM

Feb 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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