Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forum**Iowa Poll: Not even in the race, Joe Biden leads herd of Democrats; Bernie Sanders close behind**
Joe Biden has yet to enter the 2020 presidential race hes been weighing the decision in a closely watched will-he-or-wont-he saga but the former vice president still leads the pack in Iowa.
According to a new Des Moines Register/CNN/Mediacom Iowa Poll of likely Democratic caucusgoers, 27 percent say Biden is their first choice for president. Thats down slightly from the 32 percent who said the same in December, but it tops the 19 other declared and potential candidates tested.
Biden has a 2-percentage-point advantage over Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders. Though thats within the polls 4.9 percentage point margin of error, other numbers bode well for the former vice president and suggest a stronger advantage over Sanders. The poll of 401 likely Democratic caucusgoers was conducted March 3 through 6.
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https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2019/03/10/election-2020-joe-biden-bernie-sanders-harris-warren-democrats-iowa-caucuses-poll-president-caucus/3098982002/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
katmondoo
(6,457 posts)What bills has he sponsored since his 16 years in the House and 8 years in the Senate
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CrossingTheRubicon
(731 posts)One for a member of the "Know Nothing" party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Just think of the job creation whenever one is changed. Keep it up, Bernie!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Bills he sponsored in the previous years would give us Medicare-for-All and tuition-free public colleges.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Does he like to shoot the moon, or is he just not good at compromising? A little of both, I think.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,858 posts)Im not sure I trust polls anymore.
Still... Joe 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)for professionals who are tracking them serially for various things.
Both Biden and Sanders are the only names many recognize yet. Big whoopee.
If anything, over a year-and-a-half out, responses might for instance suggest to analysts something about current level of interest in the election itself and which direction is dominating.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,858 posts)I guess you arent leaning Biden or Sanders.
Biden/Beto 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)that won't mean anything in the long run. Although, of course, they could be forever meaningful to people who see something they're eager to believe.
A cool eye looking off into the distance isn't a bad thing. Remember, our brains store lies we hear repetitively as truth (even when we know they're lies) in our "bags of knowledge" that we then run new information by for acceptance or rejection. That's why many people these days literally cannot be reached by truth. It's immediately rejected by bags they've obligingly stuffed with trash.
Over the next 1-3/4 years I'll be ignoring most the blizzard of uninformative polls. Especially because a large portion of them will be generated not for informing but for the purpose of implanting disinformation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,858 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)coverage since by its nature it will inevitably badly delude.
Although I couldn't help noticing that a pair of near octogenarians, one of whom isn't even in the race, are apparently running practically neck and neck far ahead of the rest of the pack. And we're off! So exciting!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)I noticed on MTP that it's a Caucus Poll
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and didn't look further.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)Just happened to notice and then came to DU to see it being trumpeted with great fanfare.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
former9thward
(32,097 posts)Not "over a year-and-a-half out". Candidates are actively campaigning in Iowa. Polls are "mostly meaningless at this point" only if your candidate is not doing well.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CrossingTheRubicon
(731 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)He has both again. But this time it'll be discussed. And Sanders is no longer "new;" other candidates have that advantage. So the press will eventually be talking about it this time, along with other issues most blew off before.
Political scientists are no doubt counting bots and measuring...everything they can. And, unless the Republicans can suppress it better than they have so far, our intelligence agencies will be providing information since foreign interference in our elections has become a grave matter of national security.
For those who are unsure of this, the Mueller investigation has confirmed Russia's promotion of Sanders for the express purpose of electing Trump and defeating Democrats. It was horribly real, and he's running again as the same old Bernie. Putin must keep Republicans in power and defeat Democrats. This is an existential issue for Putin and the fellow kleptocrats he must satisfy, or else.
All in all, I think we have to assume InA is right. Note that Sanders can already be considered to have "gained in the polls."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
forklift
(401 posts)He was an unknown and became familiar.
Now he is familiar already. It is all downhill from here with no brakes.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LakeArenal
(28,858 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
forklift
(401 posts)despite all the hoopla, opportunistic photo ops and inserting himself in issues like he invented them for 4 years, he has no prayer.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)what part of that do you not understand? Biden could very well be running behind Sanders.
so according to you, Biden has no hope.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Whatever makes you feel better.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)if it makes you feel better.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
forklift
(401 posts)Biden has yet to peak.
Bernie is at his peak. He is a known quantity and his one stump speech is already memorized by hundreds of millions of people.
It is all downhill for Bernie from here on out. With no brakes.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Quixote1818
(28,992 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)I so hope the news infotainment learn how to present her. Right now, they are doing a poo job.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
getagrip_already
(14,891 posts)Your opinion means exactly dick. I know, I know, it's an early pony show. But really, it doesn't mean a damn thing. It's an undemocratic expression of club behavior among old white voters.
Stop focusing on it. It isn't predictive and it isn't consequential. It's like that lettle town in NH with 12 voters, Every news outlet falls over themselves to announce the results.
Go away. We don't need you any more.
I wish the candidates would just announce they aren't campaigning there and end this nonsense.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Bernie will win the Democratic caucus in Iowa and then everyone will move on to the other states and their more important primaries.
No harm done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(14,891 posts)that when bs loses iowa, he will be painted as gone. It still won't mean jack, but it will hurt.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)It looks like the 2020 presidential primary is going to be the next battleground to divide and confuse Americans, said Brett Horvath, co-founder of Guardians.ai, a tech company that aims to protect pro-democracy groups from online meddling. As it relates to information warfare in the 2020 cycle, were not on the verge of itwere already in the third inning. ...
According to the analysis, the latest disinformation campaign reportedly consists of a familiar cocktail of memes, hashtags, and misleading portrayals of candidates positions. The aim, it seems, is to exploit and exacerbate divisions between Americans; as in 2016, many of the posts specifically play on race. Harris, Politico notes, has been the subject of racist and sexist stereotypes in tweets sensationalizing her relationship with former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown. Another popular false story claimed Warren had a blackface doll in the background of an Instagram live stream she conducted on New Years Eve. And ORourke was the subject of a tweet from a suspicious account that claimed he had used racist language in a voicemail in the 1990s.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02/is-russia-already-meddling-in-2020-election
Actually, our intelligence experts are warning that both China and Russia have been ratcheting up flooding of social media, with us as their targets. Something to always keep in mind when exposing our minds to what's being published and trying to figuring out what's really happening and why "out there" on the various campaign trails.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)Grain of salt time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madville
(7,412 posts)Under 45 breaks big for Bernie and 45+ loves Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marlakay
(11,514 posts)If the youth actually showed up to vote big time they could get their progressive candidates they want.
Why I wish we had voting like Australia, where everyone has to. I have young online friends that say they pay attention because of being forced to vote.
I think we would have a better balance in the country and definitely would not be center right if the kids all voted.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided