and edwards as the nominee in 2004 and 2008.

There really weren't that many, as I recall, but they were VERY eager supporters and would never admit that Kucinich wouldn't get the nomination.

Nowadays young people ask, "Who's Kucinich?"

I'll never forget Bill Maher's joke: "We have to agree that even if Kucinich doesn't get the nomination, his new wife gets to be the First Lady." LOL. (she was beautiful)

I would love for them to be on the same ticket.

Or any of the Dem candidates. Get that fucking narcissistic, useless, despicable, lump of shit out of there!

with the highest stakes ever and escalating drama, 2nd debate will be must watch tv as candidates take off their gloves and start to get serious about winning.

I wonder if it will still be broken up into two nights?

but I will never vote for he in the primary.

Good tough is great.

Bad tough isn't.

We'll see what happens in the next debate.

post-debate. No negative effect there....

When she starts leading in Texas, North Carolina, Philadelphia, Florida, Arizona, Ohio, Mississippi and other red states, then she will be the clear front-runner, in my books...

misogynistic and racist smears and lies about her.

Somebody sure must be skeerdahuh...

Hugging.
Working with bad people.

attacking who they're not worried about.

The Hill/HarrisX
Biden 33 (-2)
Sanders 15 (+2)
Harris 11 (+6)
Warren 9 (+2)

CNN
Biden 22 (-10)
Harris 17 (+9)
Warren 15 (+8)
Sanders 14 (-4)

Politico/Morning Consult
Biden 33 (-5)
Sanders 19 (0)
Harris 12 (+5)
Warren 12 (-1)

Please research first.

You cited two online polls while conveniently ignoring the A- rated cellphone/landline poll:

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2631

that shows Kamala Harris nearly tied for the lead.

read all 24 pages of it it bodes very well for her.

Almost every poll shows that, especially the quality ones. My original post should be seen more as an acknowledgement of reality than a preference though I do like her. I also like Cory, Joe, Pete, and Marianne.

with me followed closely by Warren.

And Kamala is my senator.

Another thing I've noticed lately is supporters of a certain cadidate writing their own headline about polls and then when you click the link there is nothing like they posted at the link. I don't recall that happening here previously?

I said she was on the verge of becoming the front runner. The upward trajectory of her poll numbers suggest she is.

Also, she is already leading, by far, in the betting markets:

https://electionbettingodds.com/


She also is leading among Hispanics:

:large


That's a large constituency.

Agreed about the rudeness and I'm pretty sure Quinnipiac wasn't included because as you said it doesn't fit the narrative. There's a whole lot of twisting and turning going on since the debate.

Those are all cellphone/landline polls. Harris X and Morning Consult are online polls.

mirrors the thread title, btw.

Not recently, but Hillary has been quoted several times as saying she doesn’t believe America is ready for a woman president

But women have been elected as leaders around the world, even in places supposedly less "advanced" than we are. I think we should not worry too much about the gender of the candidate, whomever it is, that we decide is our best candidate. However, it does take charisma and "that special something", something that is difficult to quantify, to win more that a narrow victory.

Hillary was more than qualified to be president. And she won a narrow victory, but given our Electoral College that was not enough. But she did not lose because she was a woman, she lost because she did not have that special something. During the debates, I made a list of the candidates who had it. Kamala is on that list, near the top.

but I'm intrigued by the extremes in polling right now.

Good luck on that.

She will make his head spin in a debate because as we all know Donnie can't testify without perjuring himself.

on national television? It doesn't really occur to him that he may lose.

the GOP primaries.

Donald Trump can't perjure himself in a debate as he's not under oath.

She can handle this. I can picture her at the G20 with other world leaders.

I like her and I like Warren.... so far.

I also like mayor Pete.

I am not feeling the Biden thing. I like him, but..... no.

And let's say Harris, Warren, Biden, and Bernie make it that far. What happens when the votes are cast? Harris and Warren split the Indivisible vote, the three of them split the abolish-ACA vote, and Warren and Harris split the pro-busing vote if there is such a thing, which I sort of doubt.

That leaves the lion's share if not the majority to Joe. Depending on how the delegates are assigned, he gets all or most from each state including CA until he's over the top. Which will probably be on Super Tuesday.

So the chances are very good that we'll keep our 3 wonderful senators in the senate whatever it might look like now.

Suburban whites and African Americans. But unlike Barack Obama did in the primaries she will win the Hispanic vote.

We didn't know much about her when she ran for AG and Senate in CA, other than her amazing background, but now that she's burned through that in a failed take-down of Joe that leaves her actual accomplishments of which she gave us a taste on Thursday. In other words, she showed us who she is and I don't think a majority of actual primary voters are going to like it.

She will say that was then and this is now. Suburban moms will love her. She will say she is for Medicare for all who want it.

Why do you think suburban moms (and dads) are suburban in the first place? The first thing they usually say is "good schools." Try selling suburban moms on mandatory busing.

get caught flat footed again? Kamala is ruthless; I like that quality.