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Related: About this forumJohn Delaney: Bernie Sanders "Hijacked The Good Name Of Medicare" With Medicare For All Proposal
2020 Democratic presidential candidate John Delaney joins Margaret Brennan to discuss his campaign, immigration, and health care. Delaney said many Democratic candidates have "outsourced" their health care plan to Bernie Sanders.
"Theyve hijacked the good name of Medicare and applied it to a law that will cause upheaval in our healthcare system," he said about "Medicare For All" proposals. "Senator Warren, so many of these people have outsourced their health care plan to Bernie Sanders, right? Because this is Bernie Sanders's plan. And it will take private insurance away from more than half of the country and they will reject that if we run on that."
MARGARET BRENNAN: Health care is your signature issue, as I know. And in the last debate, you said "Medicare-for-All" is not good policy and it's not good politics.
DELANEY: Yes.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But more than eight of the candidates of the 24 or 25 now, support this. Are- are voters just being misled by your fellow Democratic candidates?
DELANEY: Yeah, I think they're wrong. I mean, look at so many of the candidates, Senator Warren, so many of these people have outsourced their health care plan to Bernie Sanders, right? Because this is Bernie Sanders's plan. And it will take private insurance away from more than half of the country and they will reject that if we run on that. It will- it will also reduce quality and access in our health care system because Medicare doesn't reimburse sufficiently to keep all the hospitals--
Read more: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/07/07/john_delaney_sanders_and_warren_hijacked_the_good_name_of_medicare_for_socialism.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,323 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...Bernie Sanders' "Medicare for All Act of 2019."
It has the features of Medicare plus coverage for dental, vision, and hearing aids. Plus a $200/year limit on out-of-pocket drug costs.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1129/text
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,252 posts)Democrats widely approve of M4A until they learn how much it costs, then the pendulum swings the other way. I'm not certain that the millennial generation will stay on-board for the proposal once they realize how much of their income will be redirected to support the middle-aged and the elderly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/s1129/text
(13) Home and community-based long-term services and supports (to be provided in accordance with the requirements for home and community-based settings under sections 441.530 and 441.710 of title 42, Code of Federal Regulations), including
(A) services described in paragraphs (7), (8), (13), (19), and (24) of section 1905(a) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1396d(a));
(B) home and community-based services described in subsection (c)(4)(B) of section 1915 of the Social Security Act (including habilitation services defined in subsection (c)(5) of such section);
(C) self-directed home and community-based services described in subsection (i) of section 1915 of the Social Security Act;
(D) self-directed personal assistance services (as defined in subsection (j)(4)(A) of section 1915 of the Social Security Act); and
(E) home and community-based attendant services and supports described in subsection (k) of section 1915 of the Social Security Act.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,252 posts)I can see where this would be a costly proposition since LTC can last for years.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...that the federal government would spend more, but society would spend less, because of administrative savings and federal leverage to lower prices.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,252 posts)the one consideration that I have is whether services would be utilized more frequently since there is no financial disincentive for the customer. It's a cost that is difficult to estimate under any plan.
Within my own family, nearly all of us provided assistance to my father before he died from Parkinson's disease. The cost of that care was contained within our family rather than being distributed to either society at large or to the government. We did that because we knew our father was scared of being placed in a nursing home around people he did not know instead of having the dignity of dying in his own home and bed. While we were able to preserve his assets for a longer period of time, there was a lot of aggravation that occurred then and still continues today even though my father died seven years ago.
The moral question that arises is whether it is fair for families to benefit financially or to stick the government with those expenses? As those of us on DU occasionally admonish corporations for privatizing profits and socializing the expenses, the same dilemma will apply at the family level.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)It would make choice illegal. That is foolishly unnecessary and shockingly inconsonant with a free society.
The creators of the ACA knew that most people would migrate to its public option by choice, but also that it would force private insurance to become competitive to survive at all, providing to niche markets such as wealthy employers offering its benefits to attract.
Btw, without competition for us to compare to, and with conservative legislators continually trying to cut its funding, how bad would a national program get before needing reform all over again?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Its illegal now to sell insurance coverage to a senior which he or she already gets from Medicare.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)coverage instead of signing on to Medicare.
Sanders extreme plan would effectively deny that option to over 200 million working adults. One allowed way for all of us or no coverage.
Huge no to doing that to ourselves.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I disagree with your characterization.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,539 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
shanny
(6,709 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Good luck with your bid for president.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden