Just thinking of all the stupid stuff I did between 18-24.

Poor choice of a word that I teach my children to never use.

But there’s some virtue in going straight to the point you don’t want missed. When I look back at my own adolescence, well let’s just say I’ve spent years forgiving myself for being so stupid so many times, in my case usually just cringingly embarrassingly, almost never criminally.

As for how we take the word, there is a lot to the delivery. Never pull one off a page and choose to be offended without understanding the true context.

Im sure Kamala herself probably have done a few 'stupid' things while at that age. The thing ive noticed about her is she's very direct, and at times not in a good way. BUT her heart is in the right place. She'd make a great VEEP.

That was indeed a fun time. It wouldn’t have felt as free then had we been aware that every embarrassing thing we did could end up documented and shared.

What a stupid thing to bring up. How stupid are people that they think this remark really defines her and matters?

Vice left out the video and so did the OP

Young people do sometimes make foolish and bad decisions. If you watch the video you can clearly see the context in which she speaks. But it’s so much fun I guess to spin it into a nefarious comment


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we didn't have the Internet when I was in that age group!

"young adults sometimes make foolish choices" is not a controversial opinion. they do.

Didn't Harris attack Biden for what he said and did decades ago?

OK to attack Biden.
Not ok to attack Harris.

thanks

distorting the context and intent of a pol's statements makes me insane no matter who it's done to.

I defended Romney's 47% comments on DU.

2015 was just yesterday

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She has some good ideas in this area. Her "stupid" comment isn't one of them.

Watch for a whole new group to now double down agreeing with her and calling young people stupid.

From a political POV, at what point does that voting block achieve the status others - like women and African-Americans - have? We would't say "stupid women" or "stupid black people.' We wouldn't call any voting block 'stupid' if we were courting their votes.

But stupid young people? I guess it's ok.

I think there are much better ways to discuss why she was targeting young people.

They have been stripped of equal opportunity.

They are facing a punitive justice system that seems to have a goal of getting something on their record early.

We don't do enough to support their schools or to teach them a trade.

The list goes on.

but African American have been called dumb all the time on DU and by individual democratic supports.

From Pete's supports that routinely write "if only they listen to him" as they try to explain his zero percent support with us. To Sanders's supporters saying, "We don't know Bernie's records" as if older AA who voted for Hillary in '15 didn't research his voting history.

People call African Americans brainwashed, zombies, and just uninformed when we don't support their particular candidate. They might not use the word stupid, but they find a way to say we aren't informed or able to understand just how great their candidate would be for our community.

By political supporters and their candidates.

Bernie still spouts the ridiculous line "it's not enough to say vote for me I'm a women" as if any women running ever ran or said that.

Who voted for Trump?

Never thought of that.

Earn 6 figure incomes. So why they would not vote for anyone who cut their taxes.

I am not african American but my income is solidly 6 figures. Yet, I would never vote Republican, let alone for Trump even if it means cutting my taxes. Not everybody who is fortunate enough to be comfortable is also a selfish asshole Republican

People like you who live by principles are the exception, when it comes to money.

and that goes for both of them!

while i understand this was a poor choice of words, she was just being herself - very direct, though it does sound rather condescending.

to make them look bad or insensitive. She was making the absolutely correct point that young people often have poor judgment and get themselves into bad situations because they did something stupid, which young people do with regularity. I sure did, but was fortunate enough not to get caught or killed.

Isolating the comment that people that age are "stupid" is an obvious attempt to make Harris seem disrespectful toward young people (and turn them away from her), when in fact what she was trying to do was help them by protecting them from their own (scientifically proven) undeveloped judgment skills. Please, let's not do this.

From the OP article:

"The program, modeled on a similar initiative that Harris launched in San Francisco, would provide social services to young people 18 to 24 who were convicted of nonviolent felonies.

Why that population?

People that age are “stupid,” Harris told the audience.


“What’s the other thing we know about this population? And it’s a specific phase of life. And remember, age is more than a chronological fact. What else do we know about this population, 18 through 24? They are stupid,” Harris said, to wide laughs from the audience.

“That is why we put them in dormitories, and they have a resident assistant. They make really bad decisions. So we focused on that age population. [...] When I was at Howard University, and we were in college, we were 18 to 24, and you know what we were called? College kids,” Harris said with a loaded pause
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"It was a joke," a spokesperson for the Harris campaign said of the candidate's remarks."

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/qv79xq/kamala-harris-called-young-people-stupid-in-2015

Well, I would not have made that joke, personally. Poor choice of words that detracts from her actual point and gives fodder to potential right wing detractors.

when she starts imitating Indian accents like one of the "prime time" candidates.

Can’t believe there are complaints! Thus is tone deaf right ? We need youth turnout.

Looking fondly back and admitting we were stupid then is not going to feel the same way to people who are young right now.

Yes it is stupid to make a big deal of it. But double standards aren’t right either. So one who defended her versus Biden need to take this one in stride.

Sounds so terrible doesn't it? Oh and she is right.

spit for fuck sake.


and yes, the kids who are in the criminal justice system mostly are just stupid kids. in a system that pushes more and more for treating kids as adults, i give her kudos for standing against that

and what did she say after that, i wonder.
she was smart and fair and she saved young lives.

lets crucify her.

jebus people.
spit.it.out.

every attorney in criminal law knows that.

Crimes little and crimes large, odds are the accused is going to be in that age range more often than not.

That's what she was talking about. Young people make an inordinate number of stupid decisions vice the older, and usually better versions of themselves.

Pretty sure young voters won't count themselves in the group she's talking about, and pretty sure they aren't running to Biden if they decide to take offense.

in reference to Joe's apology for something he said waaaaay back 40 years ago.

She called young people "stupid"in 2015. She's gotta own it.

This is a perfect example of taking a single statement by someone and expanding it into something more than it is.

It happens all the time. We shouldn't pay much attention to single words used in a single setting, especially if we don't have the context associated with the statement.

I don't know anyone over the age of about 30 who doesn't know that young people often do stupid things. If everyone who called people in that age group stupid were fired from their job, there would be way more job openings than people to fill them.

We need to stop parsing words candidates have said at one point or another. Doing that is also "stupid."

Take this little piece of ancient history, for instance:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mbpxx8/biden-trashes-millennials-in-his-quest-to-become-even-less-likable

"The younger generation now tells me how tough things are. Give me a break. No, no, I have no empathy for it. Give me a break."

Crushing student debt, difficulty finding a job that pays enough and provides health benefits, probably never being able to buy a house—those are the things that millennials know all too well and apparently Joe Biden doesn't. And when they tell him, not only does he not display his trademark empathy, he scoffs at them. A man for our time, not.

he should take a seminar from the police on proper methods of protesting so he wouldn't break the law. He replied, "yeah, that's who we're gonna protest about".

He was young and stupid when he was young and stupid. Probably the smartest thing he ever said.

as saying this about herself? I can guarantee not...

Most people make stupid mistakes when they are in their late teens to mid 20s.

I made a couple woppers but nothing criminal.

Also, while it certainly can be used against her, in context it is both clear what she meant, and also simply a fact. Young people, especially males in that age range, are reckless. See auto insurance rates.

with seriously at-risk youth, not wise or professional to assert youth is stupid, because as we know with Biden, anything can and will be misinterpreted despite your intent or the context.

But clearly she meant young people are impulsive and can make unwise choices. Sometimes when you get used to talking among yourselves as probation officers, cops, teachers for at-risk, in custodial situations, as with any profession, you use gallows humor, short-hand expressions you
understand among each other, etc.

She just brought that kind of talk to a wider audience in a different context. But I am pretty sure they understood what she meant.

fully develop until a person reaches his/her mid-twenties. It's not a matter of being stupid, but rather of being pliable.

Dredging up old quotes, out of context, to try and denigrate other candidates? Let's go higher DUrs!

It seems to be the same handful of people keeping this stuff going

Harris really must have hit the mark during the debates, for Uncle Joe's supporters to work so hard to go after her.



Sid

The troops got called up big time and a week and a half later, they’re still swarming.

it might be more of a tit for tat thing. The vast majority of ridiculous attacks are geared towards Biden. This is what it looks like when everyone starts using the same silly standard of zero tolerance, zero gaffes, etc. It's going to get really ugly.

everyone knows that

I wouldn't have wanted to be told I was stupid.

This won't and shouldn't hurt Harris, it was a program for the benefit of that age group so it's rather a plus. But it shows what kind of bs stories are out there and that a manufactured controversy can never be too stupid if it generates clicks.

Generally speaking, she's right. Some of my dumbest decisions were made during that age range, but I think I was at peak stupidity around 13 or 14. I did things that could have landed me in juvie. So perhaps she was a few years off in her broad brush?

No, no, I have no empathy for it. Give me a break."

Says Joe Biden in 2018, former VP and Millionaire running for President. Give me a break.

People that age are “stupid.

Kudos to Kamala Harris

but it turns out that it's a good news story, it seems to be good info about an actual program, not just stirring shit. The dumb headline is just to get people to read it.

Let she who is without sin cast the first stone.