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dsc

(52,169 posts)
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 04:05 PM Mar 2019

Tulsi Gabbard and others including Trump, are 180 degrees wrong about what happened before Iraq

It wasn't the intelligence community that produced the faulty information that got us into Iraq. It was the administration. Remember the Plame affair. She was outed by Scooter Libby because her husband, at the behest of intelligence agencies, went to Kenya to investigate Iraq and yellowcake and found the evidence lacking. The intel agencies did what they are supposed to do. They provided all the evidence and let the administration make its decision. It was Cheney and Bush who cherry picked intel. It was Cheney and Bush who lied us into war. We shouldn't rewrite history especially in a way that makes us more likely to trust Trump and distrust are intel agencies.

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Tulsi Gabbard and others including Trump, are 180 degrees wrong about what happened before Iraq (Original Post) dsc Mar 2019 OP
thank you for that KT2000 Mar 2019 #1
Thanks for the reminder. Karadeniz Mar 2019 #2
not really....the intelligence was actually mixed....and the Bush people highlighted the things... irresistable Mar 2019 #3
that is their job dsc Mar 2019 #4
And intelligent people question the use of that intelligence today in Venezuela irresistable Mar 2019 #5
No she out and out said it was their fault we are in Iraq dsc Mar 2019 #8
No, she said that the GOVERNMENT lied. irresistable Mar 2019 #10
I'm not trusting the Trump administration not to lie the US into war/intervention again. David__77 Mar 2019 #6
But they only remember "slam dunk." allgood33 Mar 2019 #7
+1000000 kacekwl Mar 2019 #9
She said that?!! Duppers Mar 2019 #11
Is there anywhere we can get a direct Cha Mar 2019 #12
 

KT2000

(20,590 posts)
1. thank you for that
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 04:14 PM
Mar 2019

I was surprised when I heard what Gabbard said because it was well reported that Bush and Cheney went ahead without utilizing all of the intel, just what served their desire to start a war. It is common knowledge.

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Karadeniz

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2. Thanks for the reminder.
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 04:15 PM
Mar 2019
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irresistable

(989 posts)
3. not really....the intelligence was actually mixed....and the Bush people highlighted the things...
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 04:16 PM
Mar 2019

that benefited them.


Same thing now in Venezuela.


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dsc

(52,169 posts)
4. that is their job
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 04:22 PM
Mar 2019

to produce all of the intelligence. Not the intelligence we like. They did their job.

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irresistable

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5. And intelligent people question the use of that intelligence today in Venezuela
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 04:34 PM
Mar 2019

Tulsi is questioning it....Trump is pushing lies.

Why would the "opposition" throw Molotov Cocktails on US aid trucks if this was legitimate?

Why would the US claim that it was the Venezuelan govt. who burned the aid?

Why would Elliot Abrams be involved?

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dsc

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8. No she out and out said it was their fault we are in Iraq
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 05:10 PM
Mar 2019

I can understand spoken English and she said those words during her townhall.

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irresistable

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10. No, she said that the GOVERNMENT lied.
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 06:10 PM
Mar 2019
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David__77

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6. I'm not trusting the Trump administration not to lie the US into war/intervention again.
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 04:51 PM
Mar 2019

...

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allgood33

(1,584 posts)
7. But they only remember "slam dunk."
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 04:58 PM
Mar 2019

That was Cheney and PNAC (remember them/) war.

We are about to be lulled into the same BS with Iran if we leave it to Trump and Bibi.

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Duppers

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11. She said that?!!
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 08:26 PM
Mar 2019

That our intel community produced the faulty information?!
OMG, where's she been?

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Cha

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12. Is there anywhere we can get a direct
Mon Mar 11, 2019, 08:59 PM
Mar 2019

quote from TG on this? So, there's no dispute.

Mahalo, dsc

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