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wyldwolf

(43,869 posts) Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:07 AM Jul 2019

Why Did Kamala Harris Let Herbalife Off The Hook?

At a rally in late January in her native Oakland, Calif., U.S. Sen. Kamala Harris announced her intention to seek the presidential nomination by casting herself as a tireless advocate of men and women who lack power and wealth. The former attorney general of California — who since 2017 has been the state’s junior senator — described her first appearance in the courtroom, as a young San Francisco district attorney. “I knew I wanted to protect people,” Harris told the crowd of 20,000. “And I knew that the people in our society who are most often targeted by predators are also most often the voiceless and vulnerable.”

But as the attorney general of the nation’s largest state — and therefore one of the most powerful law enforcement officials in the nation — Harris declined to investigate Herbalife, the nutritional supplement company that has been accused of fraudulent marketing practices. Documents exclusively obtained by Yahoo News show that in 2015, prosecutors in the San Diego office of the California attorney general sent Harris a lengthy memorandum that argued for an investigation into Herbalife and requested resources in order to undertake such an investigation. Similar investigations into Herbalife were already taking place elsewhere.

About three weeks after the San Diego letter was sent, Harris received the first of three donations to her campaign for the U.S. Senate from Heather Podesta, the powerful Washington lobbyist whose ex-husband Tony’s firm, then called the Podesta Group, had worked for Herbalife since 2013. Heather Podesta’s own lobbying firm, Heather Podesta and Partners, would soon be hired by Herbalife, too.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-did-kamala-harris-let-herbalife-off-the-hook_n_5c8fab16e4b03e83bdc39a37

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Why Did Kamala Harris Let Herbalife Off The Hook? (Original Post) wyldwolf Jul 2019 OP

There's no possible way True Dough Jul 2019 #1

.,. Celerity Jul 2019 #5

Why would Kamala conduct another investigation INdemo Jul 2019 #9

She should be impeached!!! Autumn Jul 2019 #2

why did she need to duplicate the several other investigations going on? bigtree Jul 2019 #3

Because each state is it's own jurisdiction wyldwolf Jul 2019 #4

there was a class action lawsuit for victims from any state bigtree Jul 2019 #6

True. EffieBlack Jul 2019 #7

no thanks to Kamala Harris. That was federal suit Harris had no part in. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #8

pretty tired of the vendetta this poster has on Harris rurallib Jul 2019 #10

Uh oh. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #11

omg.. "Vendetta"? It's called Cha Jul 2019 #14

Ooh what a voox.idea! hedda_foil Jul 2019 #20

Prosecutors are ethically bound to only bring cases they believe DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2019 #12

Where's the outrage about the "Circular Firing Squad" !!!!!! bluewater Jul 2019 #13

Maybe it wouldn't be happening if she had not made a salvo treestar Jul 2019 #15

But we have you to bring up Joe Biden. Cha Jul 2019 #16

Harris will be an unviable general election candidate for this & other unsavory aspects of her past. Princetonian Jul 2019 #17

Keep trying...nt SidDithers Jul 2019 #18

Clearly... Victory_Minded Jul 2019 #19

True Dough

(17,314 posts)

1. There's no possible way

Reply to wyldwolf (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:12 AM

Jul 2019

Harris is going to be able to shake off this scandal!

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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Celerity

(43,487 posts)

5. .,.

Reply to True Dough (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:29 AM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

INdemo

(6,994 posts)

9. Why would Kamala conduct another investigation

Reply to True Dough (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:53 AM

Jul 2019

using more resources to duplicate what was already being done to obtain the same exact end result.
So no this will not have the slightest impact on her campaign.

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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Autumn

(45,120 posts)

2. She should be impeached!!!

Reply to wyldwolf (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:14 AM

Jul 2019

Oh wait... nevermind.

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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

bigtree

(86,005 posts)

3. why did she need to duplicate the several other investigations going on?

Reply to wyldwolf (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:20 AM

Jul 2019

...as California’s attorney general, Kamala Harris got $20 billion for California homeowners after taking on mortgage fraud by the big banks, secured a billion-dollar judgment against for-profit Corinthian Colleges for scamming students, and put Ponzi and pyramid schemers in prison.

Interesting how they talk about a 'conflict of interest' with her husband and Herbalife's legal representation, but insist Harris should have jumped right in.

There are myriad cases AGs refuse to take on. The fact that AG Harris didn't prosecute this case which was being actively pursued by the FTC and other prosecutors is a big nothing looking to give opponents an issue in this campaign. There's nothing here worth debating.

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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

wyldwolf

(43,869 posts)

4. Because each state is it's own jurisdiction

Reply to bigtree (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:23 AM

Jul 2019

If you tell me you've never noticed several states suing the same party for the same crimes, I'll understand your misunderstanding.

If a crime occurs in two or more states, can each prosecute it?

Usually, any state in which an essential part of a crime has been committed can prosecute the offender. That means that authorities in each affected state can prosecute a crime that stretches from one territory to another. The double jeopardy prohibition doesn’t apply to separate “sovereigns,” meaning that this kind of multiple prosecution doesn’t run afoul of the Constitution. In fact, it’s at least theoretically possible that multiple states and the federal government could prosecute a defendant for a single course of conduct. (The federal government would derive jurisdiction, for example, by the fact that (1) the Constitution allows it to regulate interstate commerce and (2) the crime crossed state lines.)

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/if-crime-occurs-more-states-can-prosecute.html

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bigtree

(86,005 posts)

6. there was a class action lawsuit for victims from any state

Reply to wyldwolf (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:34 AM

Jul 2019

...and a $200m settlement.

So much for the charge of neglecting victims of Herbalife.

FTC Sends Checks to Nearly 350,000 Victims of Herbalife’s Multi-Level Marketing Scheme
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2017/01/ftc-sends-checks-nearly-350000-victims-herbalifes-multi-level

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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)

7. True.

Reply to bigtree (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:43 AM

Jul 2019

But then, what would be the point of this thread?

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wyldwolf

(43,869 posts)

8. no thanks to Kamala Harris. That was federal suit Harris had no part in.

Reply to bigtree (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 08:43 AM

Jul 2019

But congrats on the big campaign donations, right?

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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

rurallib

(62,444 posts)

10. pretty tired of the vendetta this poster has on Harris

Reply to wyldwolf (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 09:57 AM

Jul 2019

so I choose to banish said poster to my nether world.
BTW - I don't think you are doing Harris any harm or your candidate any favors.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

wyldwolf

(43,869 posts)

11. Uh oh.

Reply to rurallib (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:39 AM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,574 posts)

14. omg.. "Vendetta"? It's called

Reply to rurallib (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 02:29 PM

Jul 2019

Vetting! Harris does it.. so she doesn't get Vetted?!

Did Harris do Biden "any harm"?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)

20. Ooh what a voox.idea!

Reply to rurallib (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:06 PM

Jul 2019

I seem to wind up doing that every four years.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)

12. Prosecutors are ethically bound to only bring cases they believe

Reply to wyldwolf (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 10:41 AM

Jul 2019

Prosecutors are ethically bound to only bring cases they believe they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bluewater

(5,376 posts)

13. Where's the outrage about the "Circular Firing Squad" !!!!!!

Reply to wyldwolf (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 11:38 AM

Jul 2019

Oh, this OP isn't about Joe Biden.

Got it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

treestar

(82,383 posts)

15. Maybe it wouldn't be happening if she had not made a salvo

Reply to bluewater (Reply #13)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 02:29 PM

Jul 2019

of a negative nature.

Prosecution decisions like this are not really fair game. They depend on a lot of things that don't matter in the political sphere. But if she wanted to go negative, now she has to deal with it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,574 posts)

16. But we have you to bring up Joe Biden.

Reply to bluewater (Reply #13)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 02:30 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Princetonian

(1,501 posts)

17. Harris will be an unviable general election candidate for this & other unsavory aspects of her past.

Reply to wyldwolf (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 05:12 PM

Jul 2019

It is clear she will face ethics questions.

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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)

18. Keep trying...nt

Reply to wyldwolf (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 05:14 PM

Jul 2019

Sid

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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Victory_Minded

(22 posts)

19. Clearly...

Reply to wyldwolf (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 05:19 PM

Jul 2019

Harris is in your head and has you worried.

I don't know why though, unless you are just completely invested in the establishment choice that is Biden. Harris would be a great nominee for the Democratic Party. She is exactly what we need when it comes to beating Trump in 2020.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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