Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Says Biden 'Is Sounding Like Donald Trump' on Medicare for All
By Tommy Christopher Jul 18th, 2019, 1:30 pm
Independent Vermont Senator and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders compared rival Joe Biden with President Donald Trump, saying that the former vice president sounds like Donald Trump on the issue of Sanders Medicare for All plan.
On Thursday, The New York Times published an article in which Sanders takes a hard shot at Biden over the rollout of his health care plan, which Sanders says distorts his own Medicare for All plan.
I am disappointed, I have to say, in Joe, who is a friend of mine, really distorting what Medicare for All is about, Sanders told the NYT Wednesday, adding, And unfortunately, he is sounding like Donald Trump. He is sounding like the health care industry in that regard.
Biden name-checked M4A in his health care rollout video, in which he says he understand(s) the appeal of the bill, but says it means getting rid of Obamacare, and Im not for that.
And at an Iowa AARP forum on Monday, Biden told the crowd, I think the transition from having roughly 60 million people on Medicare now, to add another roughly 300 million people in one fell swoop, Medicare goes away as you know it, adding All the Medicare you have is gone, its a new Medicare system.
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https://www.mediaite.com/news/bernie-sanders-says-biden-is-sounding-like-donald-trump-on-medicare-for-all/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,840 posts)in any way, especially when they are just dead wrong. Biden never said anything of the kind; he's advocating for improvements in the ACA - not even close to what Trump wants, which is a complete repeal of the ACA.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,420 posts)Dem candidate's policy.
If Medicare for All passed, everyone would be covered, if it doesn't; that takes nothing away from existing Medicare and its' coverage.
No American under Medicare is in danger from losing their coverage because of Medicare for All, indeed it would be strengthened and improved, Biden was just trying to mislead and scare the older folks.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,840 posts)Equating Biden's position with Trump's is not one of them. Bernie isn't winning any friends by suggesting that Biden = Trump. Bernie is making me like Biden more and him less.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,420 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,840 posts)Bernie is sounding desperate. No Democratic candidate should ever accuse another of advocating Trump positions. But then, Bernie isn't a Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,420 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,840 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....bragged about being the first as he cajoled the other candidates to do so?
NO Democrat should ever compare another Democrat to donald trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,672 posts)People who have good workplace insurance don't want this...we can build on the ACA and get to universal coverage without the drama and bad feelings MFA would generate...end up just like Clintoncare ...not happening and the party get punished.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,558 posts)Why did sanders fail to get this plan adopted in Vermont?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,238 posts)That is the same thing he did to Hillary. Bernie took a pledge and he has broken it. I am so upset with him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,339 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,672 posts)Biden is correct.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,420 posts)of the status quo (even before Trump) as compared to Medicare for All will most definitely result in many times more deaths than 9/11.
Whether that stings someone's sensitivities or not it is the cold hard truth.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 19, 2019, 12:35 AM - Edit history (1)
Twitter from those who aren't even Biden supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....what will they be doing next spring?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,238 posts)Bernie needs to cut the HATE crap and come out and speak about HIS OWN OPINIONS AND AGENDAS and not striping the throats of the other Democrats.
I am very very disappointed in Bernie Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)know what the hell happened to it. It was Gone and now it's back.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=202541
Not counting on it staying, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)to do with the fucking Vileness of bringing up the "9/11 terrorist attacks" to equate with Biden's Health Plan that builds on ACA.
Don't try to normalize that despicable shite.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....what's in "Medicare for All", the details haven't even been developed yet.
Saying that Biden used republican talking points is WAY out of line. You should edit or delete.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,420 posts)(snip)
On Tuesday, former Hillary Clinton senior adviser and current CNN analyst Jess McIntosh made an observation that was nearly identical to Sanders attack on Biden.
McIntosh told the hosts of New Day that Biden was coming dangerously close to using Republican talking points when talking about Medicare for All.
There was a lot of Medicare as you know it will go away, seniors will be left with nothing, that sounds suspiciously like Donald Trump, she said, and added As long as Biden is trying to appeal to the Democratic base during the primary, they are not going to like him engaging with this topic using that kind of language.
As Sanders himself has pointed out, Medicare for All would replace the current program with more comprehensive benefits, but as Biden and even supporters of the plan like Senator Kamala Harris have pointed out, would entail a significant transition.
(snip)
https://www.mediaite.com/news/bernie-sanders-says-biden-is-sounding-like-donald-trump-on-medicare-for-all/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....for comparing Biden to trump.
Noted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,420 posts)and Bernie was speaking of Biden's reprehensible tactics, not the man and I believe the same of Clinton's former senior adviser.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)What the fuck? I heard what Biden said. He wants to build on the ACA with a public option for everyone who does not have insurance they like. He's talking about adding a public option for a government run insurance - like MFA would offer.
How is Biden's plan reprehensible? What, only Sanders is allowed to have a plan? That is straight up bull shit. And Biden is nothing like Trump. Not a thing. And I believe you should think twice about repeating it. Biden is a great democrat. We don't bash or demean Democrats on this site.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)Quit Projecting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)and it's having the opposite effect.
So many who aren't even behind Biden are defending him on Twitterverse.
Here's one good example..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,238 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FarPoint
(12,438 posts)Should be Democrats....not Independents....or a temporary Democrat for self serving campaign needs to seek the Presidency. Just my opinion.
When a Democratic Candidate shares this concept as shared by Bernie for Democrats, regarding such repuplican talking points...I tend to be more attentive to the message. I'm focused on our Demicratic Candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)----each year the age you would be eligible for it would be lowered 10 years.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)and hospitals are suddenly forced to accept lower payments for many of their payments. I'm pretty sure my own doctor would retire immediately. Meanwhile insurers will lose millions of customers and possibly go bankrupt before they are forced to close, leaving people to scramble for coverage.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)And changing healthcare coverage for 300 million people is not without risk. I've considered various scenarios for my own personal situation(which you know nothing about, so don't tell me I'm wrong or misinformed) and it's possible that I would pay more in taxes than I pay now in premiums and copays while my quality and access would go down.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,558 posts)Biden's plan is feasible and does not eliminate the ACA. I would love to know how sanders intends to pass his plan in the real world.
I like living in the real world and Biden's plan can be implemented in the real world
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,558 posts)No Biden supporter is going to switch their support to sanders based on false claims by sanders
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
silentEcho
(424 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,036 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...of course it will be rolled out in a rational way and take time. It's not going to happen over night.
He should get on board and explain the ways it could be done that would, in fact, lower costs and increase medical care for the most people. He should explain why it's not okay to have profits go to unnecessary middle-persons---the insurance companies.
Just take care of all our people---as they do in other industrialized countries.
A name is not magic. An actual policy is transformative.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)fucking trump.. and it will come back to bite him.
I see people standing up for Biden on this when he's not even their candidate.
Just like this is biting him and his speech writer, 3rd party stein pusher, David Sirota.
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
BS is so desperate he's dragging on Biden with trump and 9/11.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,397 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)I can!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,373 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Buzz cook
(2,474 posts)Biden's attacks on Medicare for all do echo the insurance industry claims.
Biden claims that 300 million people would be added in an instant, the current bill has a four year roll out. That is not an instant.
Biden claims you will lose your doctor. That's the same claim made against the ACA.
This is a Biden problem not a Sanders problem. Biden needs to stop attacking from the right.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)will come back to bite him. Like his equating Biden's Plan to Fucking 9/11.
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
BS needs to Stop Smearing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Buzz cook
(2,474 posts)from the right.
You need to respond to what I type not what appears in your fever dreams.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)Why is he doing that? Didn't he hear about the unity pledge?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)You said Biden was attacking.
As we can see here you've put "the right" in quotes. But no quotes on attack. This makes it your word.
And you're quite welcome!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)I guess you missed that when you were reading "it all".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)It's not semantics at all. You said Biden was attacking.
I'm starting to suspect you might not really care about that pledge. I don't mind telling you I find that quite disappointing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)Try reading the OP again, okay?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)Why is he Disingenuously trying to Smear Biden with Fucking trump?
2020 Candidates Begin Signing Unity Pledge, With Sanders Taking the Lead
https://www.democraticunderground.com/128793259
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I'm not the one who brings it up incessantly as if it means something.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)sounds like trump."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....it must have meant something to him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,992 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,992 posts)...that NEITHER of these things are so bad. It's not "your candidate is just as bad," rather it's "it's not bad when either of them does it." It was not "whataboutism" to itself try to excuse anything, nor to change the subject, you have to look at the actual point being made.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)trump and 9/11.
Not everybody is a MFA fan.
Lots of people want to save ACA.. BS doesn't.. and certainly fucking trump doesn't.
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
Progressives Support Shoring Up ACA Before Tackling Medicare For All
Im happy to support any provision that strengthens the ACA and plug some of the gaps that were seeing, particularly as its under assault by the president, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) told HuffPost on Wednesday. I think its part of a longer-term vision, at least for me, towards guaranteeing ― truly guaranteeing ― health care for all Americans.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142293852#top
Looks like the House Progressives are with former VP Joe Biden
Here's Beto..
Link to tweet
Bernie Sanders opposes House bill to strengthen the Affordable Care Act.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/128739743#top
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)Your statement is patiently false
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Buzz cook
(2,474 posts)By doing so he is attacking every candidate that supports it.
Biden opposes the Green New Deal even though it is just an aspirational pledge. By doing so he is attacking all democrats that support it.
By positioning himself as opposed to programs popular with the activist base, Biden risks alienating the activist base.
I don't want another 2016 with Biden standing in for Clinton.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)don't buy into the MFA.. not just Biden.
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
Progressives Support Shoring Up ACA Before Tackling Medicare For All
Im happy to support any provision that strengthens the ACA and plug some of the gaps that were seeing, particularly as its under assault by the president, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) told HuffPost on Wednesday. I think its part of a longer-term vision, at least for me, towards guaranteeing ― truly guaranteeing ― health care for all Americans.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142293852#top
Looks like the House Progressives are with former VP Joe Biden
Here's Beto..
Link to tweet
Bernie Sanders opposes House bill to strengthen the Affordable Care Act.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/128739743#top
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)"Biden's attacks on Medicare for all do echo the insurance industry claims.
Biden claims that 300 million people would be added in an instant, the current bill has a four year roll out. That is not an instant.
Biden claims you will lose your doctor. That's the same claim made against the ACA.
This is a Biden problem not a Sanders problem. Biden needs to stop attacking from the right."
Though I agree with Biden that I would not want to eliminate ObamaCare. I do not see a way we could pass Medicare For All in the current political climate. Democrats will need to retain the House and take the Senate in 2020 which does not seem likely.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)pic if you think it's ok for BS to smear him with "sounding like trump" and Smearing Biden's Plan with "the terrorism of 9/11"? Which he has since deleted because it was so GD stupid and mean-spirited.
You need to stop smearing Biden with "Attacking from the right".. For your information.. Biden is attacking from the Center Left.
Biden is NOT Right wing.. get it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie's progressive vision of Medicare For All. It's the ONLY way to go!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)No they haven't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dem4decades
(11,304 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)And I know my doctor would retire rather than deal with M4A.
You are arguing about the metaphorical use of the word "instant?" Really?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)Why is BS so Desperate to Smear Biden with the Psycho trump?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,379 posts)You'd think these two were competing for the nomination or something.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)These policies that he and the other candidates have? Pie.. just Pie to eat on. I never cast my vote in the primary for POTUS based on policy. I cast my votes for Senators and my congressperson based on policies. Congress writes the laws (sets the policy).
For POTUS: Best chance to win? Will Veto harmful Republican led legislation? Will sign off on Democratic Party led legislation?
BS isn't the best chance to win.. at all.
I don't doubt for a second he'd Veto harmful Republican led legislation.
I really question if he would pass Democratic Party led legislation, and this is my biggest problem with him. Odds are, anything passed by our Democratic Party members in Congress, unless we happen to gain a super majority in the Senate (not happening 2020), and maintain our hold in the House is going to almost definitely have something compromising in it. We don't need president purity tester in office. If it moves us forward, we need a president that will sign off on it.. even if parts of it requires nose holding.. BS ain't that guy.
He's the ONLY candidate running that I have absolutely NO confidence in supporting our party's legislation that does make it through the hurdles.
Take just this issue: Even though he's not fully behind it, if we elect a congress that does pass a bill that provides Medicare for all, does ANYONE, for a second think that a President Joe Biden would not sign on it? Does ANYONE really think he'd break out the Veto pen??? Preposterous. However, I likewise don't doubt for a second that BS WOULD veto a hard fought for bill that provides for what Joe is proposing just because it isn't pure enough for his tastes.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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calguy
(5,326 posts)like a senile old man.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,793 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)so isnt Sanders much more like trump in that regard?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Otto Lidenbrock
(581 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....against immigration, like trump.
Against Russia sanctions, like trump. Against the Magnitsky act, like trump.
A year after the 1994 Crime Bill was passed Democrats including Biden, tried to lower the penalties for some crimes. BS tried to RAISE them, saying they weren't strong enough!
He should be very careful about comparing other candidates to trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)"votes".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)I credit Bernie with driving the Democratic Party out of the clutches of the DLC in 2016 by evangelizing the youth vote to join the party and become engaged as liberal Democrats so I am inclined to give him a pass. Medicare for All is his baby so he is naturally protective of it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)Biden with trump and 9/11?! No.. that's flat out disingenuous and Wrong.. not very principled.
ACA is President Obama's "Baby".. and BS wants to destroy that..
Bernie Sanders opposes House bill to strengthen the Affordable Care Act.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/128739743#top
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...in the House in one form or another just about every year since 1943, when John Dingell Sr. first did so. That's about two years after BS was born.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)Least favorite candidate attacks my second least favorite candidate unfairly.
Low blow Bernie and unnecessary because it's not accurate and no one is going to listen to what you are actually saying they are going to focus on the "like Trump" part.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,655 posts)for once.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,176 posts)" I am disappointed, I have to say, in Joe, who is a friend of mine, really distorting what Medicare for All is about, Sanders told the NYT Wednesday, adding, And unfortunately, he is sounding like Donald Trump. He is sounding like the health care industry in that regard. "
...and I've never known Bernie to willfully lie...
...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)compare their "Friends" to Fucking trump.
Biden isn't the only one who doesn't think MFA is all that.. he's in Good Company.
BS is just hurting himself with trying to Smear Joe Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)definitely not a Biden fan. But, this disingenuous Attack from BS is making all kinds of non supporters of Biden stand up for him!
It's call Blowback, BS. the Law Of Unintended Consequences.
Thank You!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
...be like that, Cha...
"...he is sounding like Donald Trump. He is sounding like the health care industry..."
...trump doesn't want MFA
...the health care industry doesn't want MFA
...Joe doesn't want MFA
...what's the problem?
...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)it impacts their current insurance. I'm on medicare now but every employer subsidized health insurance package I ever had was better than medicare.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,176 posts)...on Medicare too...
...with all the deductibles, co-pays and limited benefits we have, it's the polls way of shrinking the program...we can thank everyone in Washington for that...
...I've worked blue-collar most of my life with only a couple of good Union shops in the mix...to me, Medicare is still a better deal than what I had in most of those scab shops...
...my only concern about Medicare For All is that somehow they'll further degrade our current Medicare...
...you know, we should be demanding improvements to Medicare like the elimination of deductibles and co-pays, inclusion of vision care, dental, hearing aids, drugs, etc.
...we need to stop getting distracted and voters need to be convinced...
...when do we get our turn at bat?...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)Joe Biden.
BS is Desperate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)Fucking trump does NOT want ACA, either.
BS is So Desperate all he can do is try to Smear Joe Biden with trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)Int
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,618 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mike Nelson
(9,967 posts)
Biden and Trump are not even remotely similar regarding health care! Maybe Bernie misspoke and will clarify...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vegas Roller
(704 posts)No plan, no policy, no substantive framework to get any of his slogans become reality.
He is sounding more and more like a televangelist who says "send me money and god will give you plenty" while demonizing anyone exposing it as satan.
The devotees reach for their pocketbooks and Putin laughs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)PTL
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,558 posts)I doubt that many if any Biden supporters will flip to sanders in the real world for a host of reasons. This false claim will likely hurt sanders with these voters. As a Biden supporter, I found this attack to be both false and to further reinforce my support for Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I'm perfectly okay with that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,839 posts)This is deja vu all over again. Except this ain't 2016 and Sanders is frustrated with the field of many choices where the game has changed and old schtick isn't working. Telling Dems that we're no different than Republicans is one sour note after another.
The Senator from Vermont needs to take his grumpy old man act back to his native state. Leave the 2020 contest to actual Democrats dedicated to erasing Donald Trump and his hatred out of the equation, repairing the damage done and getting on with the job of recovery.
The false equivalencies aren't working, Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)McIntosh told the hosts of New Day that Biden was coming dangerously close to using Republican talking points when talking about Medicare for All.
There was a lot of Medicare as you know it will go away, seniors will be left with nothing, that sounds suspiciously like Donald Trump, she said.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/bernie-sanders-says-biden-is-sounding-like-donald-trump-on-medicare-for-all/
I support Joe but I will not be disingenuous nor do I suffer from Bernie Derangement Syndrome.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)smears Joe Biden with.
It's Not Working.. we'll call out BS when he needs it.
I don't care what some "senior adviser.." says.. she's trying to Smear Biden, too.
trump does Not support ACA.. Biden Does!.
I'll ask you again.. Why are you sporting a Biden pic when you think "BS' smearing him with trump" is ok?
And, they aren't just Biden Supporters who are calling out BS.. all kinds of other Candidates' supporters don't like what BS is doing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)It completely revamps it.
Biden never said, "Medicare as you know it will go away, seniors will be left with nothing..." this is something Bernie's camp has spun.
Biden never said seniors would be left with nothing. He mentioned a hiatus, but later clarified:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/18/politics/biden-sanders-medicare-for-all-fact-check/index.html
So, even this person is now being disingenuous by suggesting Biden claimed 'seniors would be left with nothing'.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gulliver
(13,195 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)A scorched-earth tactic is not the way to win a nomination. BS will not be our party's nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,635 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,655 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden