If Lieberman had won the nomination, maybe he would have won the general election. It's all hypothetical, of course, but we can't say the respondents were wrong.

This is exactly how I remember the race. That's why I'm not taking the supposed ups and downs of the horse race all that seriously right now.

(To respond to other posts on the thread, though, there's no way Joe Lieberman would have won the general election. He was not in fact "the most electable," as the primaries pretty much proved early on. I followed that election very closely, and Lieberman really went nowhere. I think that his early boost came largely from the fact that he was Gore's VP nominee).

I'm glad I'm not the only one having flashbacks to 2004. I like Biden and will be all in if he's the nominee, but he's also so fundamentally flawed that I really hope it's somebody else.

they come. Please.

Last edited Sun Jul 21, 2019, 07:53 PM - Edit history (1)

Joe BIDEN is, joe lieberman is NOT.

even in the worst winter weather. people on the ground saw that.

ground game often matters more early on than big media headlines.

but this time around Biden does have certain advantages and he is no Joe Lieberman.

but Biden is more like Kerry and he is getting the same support Kerry got although Kerry did better with women and more liberal voters.

I worked on his voter protection team, and I'd be hard pressed to tell you what it was.

Don't remind us!

You didn't have someone as significant as Biden running in 2004.

GOP called him 'Loserman' when he ran with Gore.

McCain wanted Lieberman as his VP.
The big republicans wanted Romney for VP.
The religious right wanted Sarah Palin.

McCain got stuck.

if he had picked lieberman who would have gone on to lose again instead of Sarah Palin and what came out of that .

I thought for sure we had it in the bag.

I was misinformed. And naive.

From my viewpoint as a progressive, Lieberman was awful on the issues. (Please don't ask for links, but I spent a lot of time in Connecticut, and I consider it self-evident.)

A good example of the Democratic Party's drift to the right (drift? -- hell, a collapse!) Why I'm glad there is a Bernie Sanders, AOC, Elizabeth Warren progressive wing today.

Not that I'm taking a position -- yet -- on who I'd vote for to beat Trump in 2020. A whole different issue.

and everyone else who voted against him that were too the right.

as a sop to moralists after Clinton got a blowjob.

Contrast with the sexual morality of Trump et al. today.