Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,297 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,451 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)She's having fun bashing Biden? What happened to THE PLEDGE????
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,451 posts)was malarkey at the time.. how about that idiotic response?
She gets paid $13,000 a month for that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
She gets 13K to run a game show, having fun, and the workers can't get 15 lousy bucks an hour? WTF!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,451 posts)that came out about BS' field workers' complaints. So the staff got their salaries reported, too.
Says Jeff Weaver makes the most.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,260 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,260 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)But want their salary to work out to be an acceptable hourly pay.
So as long you're getting at least $15/hour, via an adjustment of how many hours you're expected to work to earn your salary, how is this a 'raw deal'?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,232 posts)hypocritical and disgusting. those people need to be paid A LIVING WAGE !!! Right BS???
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Foul. Any candidate who compares another to Dotard is way out of line.
Lose gracefully, Bernie. This trash does not become you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PDittie
(8,322 posts)When Biden misrepresents (and I'm being kind using this word) Bernie's plan, that requires a correction.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 21, 2019, 06:31 PM - Edit history (1)
"straight out of the playbook of Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell and the health insurance industry"
He didn't have to say that, he could have just said HOW he disagrees with Biden. Comparing him to trump and McConnell is wrong.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)Expect his attacks to get worse as he stays mired in 3rd or 4rh place.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....or very few, depending upon how each state allocates district delegates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)they are not only "wrong" but ethically suspect, and have an agenda against progressive ideals in general.
This time he's equating Biden in with Trump and "the insurance industry."
I don't think that this strategy will stop until the Convention, no matter what the delegate counts are.
It certainly gets him attention.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)saying that they disagree....
There are some who equate anyone who disagrees with them in any way with being "unethical" "against progress" "corporatists" "Wall Street shills."
That isn't accurate, and it's a smear.
Is that clearer?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)No.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)One wasn't asked if they would, one was asked it was clearer. It's not.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Care to edit?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
When you ask "is it clearer" -- which you do constantly btw. it's one of your go-to lines -- what you're really saying is...
"Have I schooled you sufficiently? Do you agree now?"
You haven't and I don't. Of course you're not really interested in convincing me or anyone else for that matter. What "is that clearer" really really is, is a taunt. An attempt to start a fight. It's baiting.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
onetexan
(13,051 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,333 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yaesu
(8,020 posts)finishes his first term, is GOP grandstanding.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)but it was a dishonest ad campaign by the insurance industry against the Hillary Clinton plan. Not an attack during a primary.
The only question is
can Senator BS go any lower in common civility between candidates?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,837 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Tastes great. Less filling.
Good branding. Little else.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)That is a DISHONEST attack on Biden by taking only snippets of his sentences are posing them as questions. The full statements convey a completely different meaning.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
handmade34
(22,756 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,165 posts)
???...who's 'attacking' who?
...Bernie is saying Joe is attacking him and his MFA with misinformation similar to what trump/turtle and their corporate buddies use...
...true or untrue?
...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Trump said. " Medicare for all would really be Medicare for none. Todays Medicare would be forced to die"
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)The second one? Google it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)You may not like them but that's what both said.
The first was said by Biden, the second by Trump
When something dies, it's gone.
Trump said the first... Biden said the second
If none of our citizens get Medicare, then medicare is gone.
Bidens and Trumps quotes on MFA.
Trump said. " Medicare for all would really be Medicare for none. Todays Medicare would be forced to die"
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)Plus, none of those pairs of quotes are "similar". As I said earlier, not even close.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)meaning and words. Very similar. Done here, I have better things to do than parse the meaning of words so enjoy your evening.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Thank you, Autumn.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)Tata!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,837 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Biden said "Medicare goes away as you know it. All the Medicare you have ...is gone.
Trump said. " Medicare for all would really be Medicare for none. Todays Medicare would be forced to die"
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vegas Roller
(704 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,451 posts)Backfire on him and Bill di Blasio.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,458 posts)If sanders' plan is so good what happened in Vermont? Why was this plan not adopted in Vermont?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)quite a high tax burden. Beautiful state and higher taxes pay for many great things like flood preventionfloods were a grave problem in Vermont. I discovered I would pay way more taxes in
Vermont and I am already in a fairly high taxing area.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vegas Roller
(704 posts)using only snippets of Biden's statements when the full statement had an entirely different meaning.
Biden did not attack Sanders but stated how "Medicare for all" is flawed.
Attacking "ideas" and "policies" is called debate.
Attacking a person with ad hominem tactics is called "mud slinging"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,317 posts)disruptive individual, who with all his years in Congress has very little to show for it.
Outside his little circle, I dont think they realize how much disgust he has created among Democrats, which is why his numbers dont move beyond his base
By appointing Jill Stein supporters to high positions in his campaign, who not only voted for Stein, but encouraged others to do likewise, he has essentially spit in the face to all those Democrats who voted for the Democratic nominee in 2016, and that is remembered, and why he wont be the nominee
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yaesu
(8,020 posts)Bernie isn't running advertisements that mimics GOP ads.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RGinNJ
(1,021 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PDittie
(8,322 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)That's from Dick Harpootlian, a Biden campaign surrogate, according to
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/453962-harris-faces-pressure-to-define-policy-proposals
You know what? It's a campaign.
BTW, here's the pledge:
1. Make the primary constructive. Ill respect the other candidates and make the primary election about inspiring voters with my vision for the future.
2. Rally behind the winner. Ill support the ultimate Democratic nominee, whomever it is -- period. No Monday morning quarterbacking. No third-party threats. Immediately after theres a nominee, Ill endorse.
3. Do the work to beat Trump. I will do everything in my power to make the Democratic Nominee the next President of the United States. As soon as there is a nominee, I will put myself at the disposal of the campaign.
I don't think criticizing your opponent on policy (before there is a winner) breaks the pledge. Especially if you have facts to back up what you're saying. We don't all need to be clutching our collective pearls at every policy-based slight.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)" Ill respect the other candidates and make the primary election about inspiring voters with my vision for the future."
How is saying that Biden is using "misinformation straight out of the playbook of Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell...." "inspiring voters with my vision for the future."?
Hint: it isn't!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(44,164 posts)YMMV of course.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Vegas Roller
(704 posts)He attacked Biden's person by comparing him with Trump. In a debate competition, using such tactics would disqualify a team.
Furthermore, the Nina Turner game show was fundamentally dishonest by using snippets of Biden's statements without using the entire statement which had an entirely different meaning.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)Where exactly did he compare "Biden's person" (not policy, person) to Trump?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,458 posts)Biden suuprters are very unlikely to support sanders for a host of reasons
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,430 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,792 posts)when Bernie finally drops out. Not feelin' the Bern any more.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,451 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vegas Roller
(704 posts)HE is more like Trump and it was projected here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Fool me once....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mike Nelson
(9,961 posts)
comparing Biden to Trump is ugly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
roody
(10,849 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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sheshe2
(83,837 posts)Will watch SNL for a news recap.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,451 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Otto Lidenbrock
(581 posts)on trade and immigration
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calguy
(5,324 posts)GET OFF MY LAWN !!!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)It's a revolution damnit!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,458 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dawn5651
(604 posts)the pledge is only good so long as he is in the lead...look at how he attacked hillary clinton ...i have zero use for bernie and my opinion is he is not a democrat never was and never will be.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,051 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)So now we have a Democratic candidate comparing a fellow Democratic candidate who is kicking his ass with a different vision of universal healthcare to trump? A statement I rightfully could not post here under our rules.
Of course, we all know the truth is only one of them is a proud Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,451 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(16,869 posts)That our side could at least refrain from saying a fellow candidate sounds like Trump. Give me a fucking break with this nonsense Bernie. Biden is trying to save the ACA. If trump had his way, that would have been long gone by now
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vegas Roller
(704 posts)On Democratic board for promoting Democrats, a life-long Democrat who has served the country honorably and with grace is being attacked by angry people who voted for Jill Stein using dishonesty ... and it is being cheered on by people who also probably voted for Jill Stein so their messiah would get a second shot at the presidency.
Where are the decency, honesty and debating skills of the Bernie campaign? Or in the slogans and slander driven world there is no room for an honest debate?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)skipping the surrogate pretense.
Of course the pledge went the way everyone knew it would long ago. People don't change their basic natures.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden