Maybe cause he wrote the points many of what the others are debating.

Oh also Liz!

Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg are all sharp as hell and speak clearly, vividly and on themes all Americans are now hungry to tackle.

He's very skilled at framing his responses. Wish I could do it 1/2 as well.

Tapper keeps pushing the GOP gotcha talking points. Bernie has far more experience than others dealing with those type attacks from the "moderators".

...Bernie and Liz!

sanders is not doing it for me

[link:https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bernie-sanders-goes-after-jake-tapper-your-question-is-a-republican-talking-point/|

If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states

...or not!

I am so happy that sanders will not be the nominee. There are too many real Democrats who have good memories and who do not forgive or forget

we get it. You don't like Bernie. Basta!

I am very hopeful that we will not have the disruptions at the National convention this cycle if sanders fails to get 300 delegates. I was a delegate to the Philadelphia convention and saw how the process works. One key item is that under the rules, a candidate cannot be put into nomination without 300 delegates. https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/2020-Call-for-Convention-WITH-Attachments-2.26.19.pdf

If sanders is frozen out of enough states due to the 15% rule and remaining non-Biden delegates are split among several candidates, there is a chance that sanders may not reach 300 threshold

Sanders wouldn't lose 45+ states.

Biden is on tomorrow. My guess is that you'll be impressed then. Why not just enjoy your preferred candidate and respect differences among Democratic voters?

If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states. I will be voting based on which candidate can beat trump. Socialism will be easy to use against sanders

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

unlike those just now taking the "Bernie line" just to get elected.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

prescription and fossil fuel issues.

Plus Liz! Wow. What a team!

It feels reassuring in my guts. Haven’t felt that about the country/world in quite a while.

...feel!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

Me two!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

Love em!

Yes, he is the old guy telling you to get off his lawn. He knows that, we all do, but he is who he is.

I do like him, felt fabulous caucusing for him and winning in the state of Kansas.

I will vote for him if he wins with a big smile on my face but I am not backing him this time. I am mostly figuring out who I do not want right now. Separating the moderates from those I would love to work for.

Elizabeth Warren is doing a tremendous job tonight. I do like her, I always have.

Thanks for the thread JoeOtterbein.

...make s... up!

(don't have little waving guys but just say I do!)

CNN cast him as Gladys Knight and everybody else as The Pips.

Yelling, blustering and sounding out of control does not indicate solid leadership skills, IMO.

It worked for Trump in 16.

I think the whole world has really had enough of it. Buttigieg was the most rational person on that stage

Bernie is one-dimensional. All anger. I'm sick and tired old, angry white mail f*ckers telling us what is good for us. Go away, we need new leadership. Women, POC, youth. And, btw, I'm an old, angry white f*cker. ha

Clarity of conviction - you have it or you don't. Being willing to name the problems is a breath of fresh air.

Clarity kills!

has its disadvantages in judging reality.

Go Bernie!

Oh yes -- he named two post offices in Vermont. Bravo.

MFA is Ted Kennedy's idea
Tuition Debt Relief is Senator Warren's idea
Higher minimum wage has been in the works for 30+ years

BS just appropriated these issues.

them Democratic policy.

No other Democratic candidates disagree with him except to quibble about incremental moves in health care that eventually lead to what he advocates, anyway.

He knows exactly how to pay for it all, too. The rest just don't want to piss off the rich by agreeing with him.

Just slogans and a big ego

No fake love from Bernie!

People are just means to an end to BS -- and it shows. ZERO EMPATHY.

What a great tag team on MFA!

Elizabeth Warren is my Senator and I have listened to her speak and met her in person. She is brilliant, vivacious and a passionate speaker.

E Warren stands solidly on her own.

And hopefully against Trump tomorrow, and I do not care a bit who heads the ticket!

No. First off would love E to be the candidate, B would never accept second place to E. As to the reverse, which won't happen, E is way to valuable in the Senate to take a second seat. That woman has miles to go before she sleeps.

Like it or not his self avowed Socialism will not land him in the White House.

risky, unless something unexpected happens.

I’d also have to see less of that Economic Patriotism, ie America First junk, those two are touting. We have enough of that right now.

If you loved him last time, you'll love him this time.

I doubt if he converted any Hillary voters, and he can't win without some of them.

Hillary voters to choose him over one of the other highly qualified candidates in the primary.

I don't know any Hillary people who prefer him over the other 19. And I know several former Bernie people who've moved to Warren.

You are correct to note it's strength.

Everyone on stage should have done that.

BOOM!!!!!

...Bernie...

...there's a sincere passion and a fire there that I don't see in many other candidates...

...like his polices or not, Bernie believes in what he's saying and he wants you to become a believer too...I think Bernie would do very well up against trump in a debate...

...I think the contrast between a lying name-calling trump and an honest truth-telling Bernie would be stark and compelling...

...not bad...

...List!

Bernie and Warren were both great tonight. They are the class of the field. Either would blow trump off the stage.

Now, I'm getting too far out with the numbers! LOL!

And why he did surprisingly well in 2016.

Sanders drift downward has reached a new low in today's Quinnipiac poll where he is in 4th place with 11%

In 2016 he benefited from a) a whole lot of "anybody but Hillary" sentiment that was fueled by millions of messages from Russian troll farms b) getting a free pass in scrutiny by the media who never bothered to scrutinize what He was actually saying and the costs involved.

National polls are less compelling than state polls this far out.

Even among the "activist" wing he is sinking. Scroll up and you will see he is about to drop to 5th place in the DU poll which has been very prescient in showing future trends of the party.

As for your point on state vs national polls you make my point in spades. As the ONLY candidate who has run a national campaign he should be out performing on national polls due to name recognition and being the only candidate already having a campaign in place in all 50 states, but the reverse is true.

There is nothing in the polls that is encouraging to the Sanders campaign.

Given he is running against Baracks's VP, it is remarkable that both Bernie and Liz are in the top tier.

The problem with the insincere interlocutor is that having already established your preferred conclusion you will just keep changing metrics until you find the one that you think proves your case. Not agreeing with the national polling you state

Lets look at the state with frequent polling that is closest to Senator Sanders home: New Hampshire

We will pick

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-6276.html

the state started the campaign with the widest margin favouring Sanders
the poll that gives Sanders the best numbers

so all of the bias is going for Sanders, not against him

1) The facts are that the state polls that you prefer show an even greater collapse than the national polls do. Using the same pollster UNH (to avoid cherry picking results but providing exactly the same methodology in all of the polls) we see that Sanders has lost more than half of his supporters in NH and has moved from a commanding first place lead to third place (and in the most recent poll from a different NH pollster fallen to 5th place.

Before the campaign cycle started this is what UNH showed Sanders support as

1) Sanders 31
2) Biden 24
3) Warrren 13
4) Harris 1

At the beginning of the cycle in Feb

1) Sanders 26
2) Biden 22
3) Harris 10
4) Warren 7
5) Buttigieg 1

In July Sanders had fallen to 3rd place within the margin of error.

1) Biden 24
2) Warren 19
3) Sanders 19
4) Buttigieg
5) Harris 9

Again this is all from UNH polling which has consistently given Sanders the HIGHEST numbers.

The average for all current polls is pretty close

1) Biden 24
2) Warren 18
3) Sanders 16
4) Harris 13
5) Buttigieg

The most recent poll from St Anselm has Sanders in 5th place


What is really remarkable about Sanders, the guy who wanted to primary President Obama is that in looking at all of the major candidates from all of the major parties no candidate in recent history had less support from the colleagues who actually worked with him. Of the approximately 50 Democratic Senators he received no endorsements until the very end (six weeks after Super Tuesday gave Secretary Clinton an insurmountable lead) when Senator Merkley became the sole Senator to endorse Senator Sanders. Sanders inability to attract Vermont Democratic office holders who had worked with and knew Sen Sanders the best in 2016 confirms what this cycle is proving; the more people know about Sanders (including neighboring NH) the less support he has.

Over the last few months there has been a consistent decline of support for Sanders in both National and State polls and with Senator Warren's strong performance last night, more erosion is coming his way.

Polls all through 2016 and recently show Bernie is the most likeable of all of the candidates. Voters like him which is the only metric that matters.

As for his popularity amongst fellow Senators, who cares? Keep in mind that Barack had only one Democratic Senator endorse him until well into the 2008.

Doesn't the latest Michigan poll which has Sanders in second place? As for national polls, the latest YouGov poll has him sitting pretty next to Joe and Liz.

different approaches to the problems we face don't you?

I agree with this analysis https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/31/dem-debate-gop-strategists-roundup-227491?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

He is a well funded career politician. Decades of experience for debates. I'm a bit surprised at how little I'm hearing about him this morning.