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Beto in it (Original Post) MyNameGoesHere Mar 2019 OP
Beto rocks!! forklift Mar 2019 #1
What plans and policies Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #2
Stay tuned nt forklift Mar 2019 #4
One would think that Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #6
One would think MyNameGoesHere Mar 2019 #8
One would think that Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #12
He was front and center most of the fall when he ran against Cruz... George II Mar 2019 #32
The poster you're responding to BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #47
Some Andrew Yang supporters forklift Mar 2019 #10
I suspect that neither is the case Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #13
Ohhh. Now I can't take you serious MyNameGoesHere Mar 2019 #16
Then I will be off Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #17
It wasn't a decree MyNameGoesHere Mar 2019 #21
Sure came across like a dictate Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #27
Wow, the hits are already teed up and ready to go... George II Mar 2019 #35
He spent a lot more time during the recent campaign talking about issues... George II Mar 2019 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #48
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #19
I have a hard time MyNameGoesHere Mar 2019 #22
Agreed Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #26
A whole lotta hat! justhanginon Mar 2019 #33
I have met Beto in person and I really like him Gothmog Mar 2019 #40
I went to his website earlier. It was "Beto for Texas". Then moments later it changed to... George II Mar 2019 #3
Beto will add some real excitement to the primaries amuse bouche Mar 2019 #5
Senator Warren has the most coherent plan for economy! at140 Mar 2019 #7
Check his voting record, please Crazyleftie Mar 2019 #9
That could be a cause for serious concern Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #14
Wow Beto has... workinclasszero Mar 2019 #20
You should check the votes during the current session. Some off them might surprise you.... George II Mar 2019 #37
Note: Cortez voted against both Democratic budget bills by House Dems to end the shutdown. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #30
Those no votes were presumably because funding for ICE was included in those bills, but it wasn't. George II Mar 2019 #43
Here's his voting record. A cursory review seems that his votes are great. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #31
thank you jcgoldie Mar 2019 #39
Looks good to me. As for the term limit issue, I don't agree with him either but... George II Mar 2019 #46
Thanks! Folks should look at this. nt Duppers Mar 2019 #44
no thank you Kurt V. Mar 2019 #11
Agreed Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #15
This should be interesting. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #18
Lovelovelove!!! ananda Mar 2019 #23
Yay! He's coming to Iowa. Skidmore Mar 2019 #24
Hear hear!!! ananda Mar 2019 #25
He gave an impromptu "Town Hall" this morning, impressive. It must have been good.... George II Mar 2019 #50
Since he can easily win the general he is now in the Kremlin's cross hairs McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #28
+1. The Internet Research Agency is targeting him dalton99a Mar 2019 #36
The bros are also going after him forklift Mar 2019 #41
Sheer coincidence dalton99a Mar 2019 #42
lol forklift Mar 2019 #45
Phew! Someone I might be interested in, besides Gov. Inslee. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #29
This is the Beto who I got to know in Texas Gothmog Mar 2019 #38
I believe he will do well in Iowa and New Hampshire Bok_Tukalo Mar 2019 #49
I just changed from Undecided to Beto redstatebluegirl Mar 2019 #51
K&R stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #52
 

forklift

(401 posts)
1. Beto rocks!!
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:08 AM
Mar 2019

The RFK of our generation!!!

Go Beto !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
2. What plans and policies
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:11 AM
Mar 2019

Are being offered or suggested by him?

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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
6. One would think that
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:37 AM
Mar 2019

Those pesky little details would be ready to go.

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MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
8. One would think
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:46 AM
Mar 2019

You would announce what your not aligned with about Beto. I can throw a rotten tomato into a parade but I would probably have a reason. To do it with no reason is just throwing rotten tomatoes. Are you a tomato thrower without a cause?
I see Beto as the candidate I can shape, not the candidate I get stuck with and their unwavering set in stone policies. If I wanted that I would just stick with the dictator we have.

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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
12. One would think that
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:06 AM
Mar 2019

Substance might be important as opposed to marketing, but we will see.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
32. He was front and center most of the fall when he ran against Cruz...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:57 AM
Mar 2019

... how do you think he got so popular from out of nowhere?

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BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
47. The poster you're responding to
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:02 PM
Mar 2019

Recently bragged they’ve picked someone other than the eventual nominee, usually a distant 4-6th place finisher, if that, in almost every Democratic presidential primary for decades.
Apparently even Obama didn’t impress the poster enough to vote for him in 2008 in that primary.

Bottom line: I wouldn’t spend much energy on the back and forth.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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forklift

(401 posts)
10. Some Andrew Yang supporters
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:51 AM
Mar 2019

seem to be panicking like Bernie Sanders supporters ... especially considering that Beto poses no threat to Mr. Yang but will destroy Bernie Sanders' hopes and dreams ... grinding them into finely pulverized saw dust and then lighting it on fire.

Beto is going to vacuum the millennials leaving only grumpy, disgruntled, angry, old men as Bernie supporters coddling their pitchforks and torches in frustration.

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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
13. I suspect that neither is the case
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:07 AM
Mar 2019

I simply want to know where he stands on issues as opposed to where he stands on a skateboard.

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MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
16. Ohhh. Now I can't take you serious
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:15 AM
Mar 2019

That was an obvious malignment and wasn't necessary. Now, unfortunately I have to consider you to be a a person that barges into a little party and acts like an ass. No one knows who you are, they just wish you would find another party to attend. I don't hate you or anything, I just feel better when you're not around.

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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
17. Then I will be off
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:18 AM
Mar 2019

As you dictate.

Yet where’s Beto’s agenda and plans? How often did he vote with the GOP while in Congress?

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MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
21. It wasn't a decree
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:28 AM
Mar 2019

It was wishing and hoping. But since you're leaving I do feel better now. Thanks!

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George II

(67,782 posts)
35. Wow, the hits are already teed up and ready to go...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:07 AM
Mar 2019

Are those the Our Revolution, Brand New Congress, and Justice Democrats logos on those graphics?

Gosh, I wonder who they are supporting?

P. S. Those weren't votes, either-

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George II

(67,782 posts)
34. He spent a lot more time during the recent campaign talking about issues...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:00 AM
Mar 2019

... then he spent on a skateboard.

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MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
22. I have a hard time
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:30 AM
Mar 2019

Supporting a candidate of convenience and I hate wines and bourbon with single notes. If the wine and bourbon taste like alcohol and that's it, it isn't very pleasing. Might as well drink mad dog and grain.

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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
26. Agreed
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:08 AM
Mar 2019

He appears to be ALL Hat and No Cattle.

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Gothmog

(145,312 posts)
40. I have met Beto in person and I really like him
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:38 AM
Mar 2019

Last edited Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

I woke up to see an e-mail from Beto. I got to talk to Beto at the National Convention just briefly. In early 2017, Beto spoke to a small group at a tavern in my county. My son and I got to see Beto up close and he is amazing. I made a couple of rallies and heard him at the state convention. Beto is perhaps the best retail politician that I have seen since President Obama.

I like Beto a great deal and Beto could flip Texas which is a goal that I have been working towards for a very long time. I am still torn between Beto, Biden and Harris but my main goal is anyone but sanders.


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George II

(67,782 posts)
3. I went to his website earlier. It was "Beto for Texas". Then moments later it changed to...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:13 AM
Mar 2019

..." Beto for America"!!

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amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
5. Beto will add some real excitement to the primaries
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:37 AM
Mar 2019
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at140

(6,110 posts)
7. Senator Warren has the most coherent plan for economy!
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:38 AM
Mar 2019
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Crazyleftie

(458 posts)
9. Check his voting record, please
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:47 AM
Mar 2019
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/20/beto-orourke-congressional-votes-analysis-capital-and-main


However, a new analysis of congressional votes from the non-profit news organisation Capital & Main shows that even as O’Rourke represented one of the most solidly Democratic congressional districts in the United States, he has frequently voted against the majority of House Democrats in support of Republican bills and Trump administration priorities.

Capital & Main reviewed the 167 votes O’Rourke has cast in the House in opposition to the majority of his own party during his six-year tenure in Congress. Many of those votes were not progressive dissents alongside other left-leaning lawmakers, but instead votes to help pass Republican-sponsored legislation.
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O’Rourke has voted for GOP bills that his fellow Democratic lawmakers said reinforced Republicans’ anti-tax ideology, chipped away at the Affordable Care Act (ACA), weakened Wall Street regulations, boosted the fossil fuel industry and bolstered Donald Trump’s immigration policy.
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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
14. That could be a cause for serious concern
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:08 AM
Mar 2019

And certainly is in my view.

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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
20. Wow Beto has...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:25 AM
Mar 2019
"frequently voted against the majority of House Democrats in support of Republican bills and Trump administration priorities."

But...but...youth, charisma!
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George II

(67,782 posts)
37. You should check the votes during the current session. Some off them might surprise you....
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:39 AM
Mar 2019

....as to who votes more consistently against the majority of House Democrats in support of Republican bills and trump administration priorities.

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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
30. Note: Cortez voted against both Democratic budget bills by House Dems to end the shutdown.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:21 AM
Mar 2019

She did so....because she was wrong on her facts. Now THAT'S something to worry about.

But I'll read up on his voting record.

A candidate is more than just a voting record. This is why representatives & Senators are rarely elected President; it's easy to attack their voting records. Sometimes people vote for or against a bill for specific reasons that are not the main thrust of the bill, or because it's best for their constituents.

Representatives are in Congress to represent the interests of their district and state. Not the U.S. as a whole.

What matters most is that he supports most of the Democratic Party Platform. That is, that he's a real Democrat. Democrats can have differing opinions on details, but they support the main points, which is why they are Democrats.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
43. Those no votes were presumably because funding for ICE was included in those bills, but it wasn't.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:24 AM
Mar 2019

Except for Joe Cunningham of South Carolina, she has voted against the Democratic majoritymore than any other Democratic member of Congress this session. All votes can be found here:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2019/index.asp

Progressive Punch has her rated at 215 of the 234 Democrats in the House, even behind Henry Cuellar (Justice Democrats' first announced "target" next year):

https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?x=43&y=6&house=house&party=D&sort=overall-current&order=down

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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
31. Here's his voting record. A cursory review seems that his votes are great.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:44 AM
Mar 2019

Last edited Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:39 AM - Edit history (3)

https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/78533/beto-orourke/?p=1#.XIpLyyhKjIU

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/house/

Offhand, I saw that he voted to protect wolves from being removed from endangered list, protected pro-choice, pro-environment. The couple of things I checked on that sound like a bill to "protect" the ACA, that he voted against, actually wanted to repeal a board requirement that they conduct reviews in public so that they could make decisions in private, and allowed the board to reach their hands into Medicare and actually change Medicare spending. His vote sounds appropriate.

The article also makes a deal out of him having been a member of the New Democrat Coalition. I looked at that and immediately saw that Adam Schiff is a member of that group. https://newdemocratcoalition-himes.house.gov/members

I noticed that NARAL Pro-Choice, Planned Parenthood, Alliance for Retired Americans, the Sierra Club, and a group called Demand Universal Health Care have endorsed him. But I didn't search long for that. https://votesmart.org/interest-groups#.XIpRSChKjIX

Looks pretty good to me, so far. Hits my big issues: protection of Medicare & Social Security, environment, wildlife, pro-choice, health care.

One negative thing I ran across was that when Rep Tim Ryan was going to challenge Pelosi for Speaker, O'Rourke backed Tim Ryan. O'Rourke said he believed in term limits, and it was time for a change. I don't like that.
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jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
39. thank you
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:59 AM
Mar 2019

Good summary and I agree with your priorities.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
46. Looks good to me. As for the term limit issue, I don't agree with him either but...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:10 PM
Mar 2019

...there isn't ANY candidate for any office with which we all agree on every issue.

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Duppers

(28,125 posts)
44. Thanks! Folks should look at this. nt
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:24 AM
Mar 2019
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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
15. Agreed
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:09 AM
Mar 2019

My take as well.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
18. This should be interesting.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:21 AM
Mar 2019

Not someone I would vote for in the primary but I do have a positive opinion of him.

I would think Biden’s heart just sank a little bit.

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Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
24. Yay! He's coming to Iowa.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:50 AM
Mar 2019

Can't wait to hear him speak.

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ananda

(28,866 posts)
25. Hear hear!!!
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 07:51 AM
Mar 2019

Wish I could be there!

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George II

(67,782 posts)
50. He gave an impromptu "Town Hall" this morning, impressive. It must have been good....
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:20 PM
Mar 2019

.....trump is already attacking him!

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McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
28. Since he can easily win the general he is now in the Kremlin's cross hairs
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:14 AM
Mar 2019

Be, strong, Beto!

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dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
36. +1. The Internet Research Agency is targeting him
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:36 AM
Mar 2019
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forklift

(401 posts)
41. The bros are also going after him
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:47 AM
Mar 2019

coincidence?

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dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
42. Sheer coincidence
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 10:51 AM
Mar 2019

but well planned

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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
29. Phew! Someone I might be interested in, besides Gov. Inslee.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 08:16 AM
Mar 2019

I hope he can go the distance. I'll be watching. I haven't seen much of him, but he's the only one I'm excited about. Altho Gov Inslee has some qualities I've been looking for.

This is getting interesting.

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Gothmog

(145,312 posts)
38. This is the Beto who I got to know in Texas
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:56 AM
Mar 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Bok_Tukalo

(4,323 posts)
49. I believe he will do well in Iowa and New Hampshire
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:05 PM
Mar 2019

<OPE>

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redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
51. I just changed from Undecided to Beto
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:21 PM
Mar 2019

he really reminds me of Bobby Kennedy. I could change again, but I doubt it.

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