Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBeto voted against Medicare for all and a 15 dollar an hour minimum wage
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cary
(11,746 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cary
(11,746 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)Can you help me out and post the vote counts?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)if false information is put out to take him down...and let me just say 'the truth shall set you free'.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)Right?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)didn't want Sen. Sanders to run in 20 are now on the bandwagon. How will it end? He won't win the nomination in my opinion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)The headline is false, probably intentionally so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)Stubborn things they are.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I am dealing with some "conservative" morons on Facebook. I am so disgusted with those people. They are pushing the Omar is an anti-Semite crap really, really hard.
I come here and find the same kind of partisan smear crap. WTF?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)Or not. I don't know what you think you're referring to. I believe my statement was clear. I meant what I said, and said what I meant.
So which part of "I prefer Democrats" tripped you up?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Shell_Seas
(3,334 posts)And Beto was actually a co-sponsor of one of them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Omaha Steve
(99,660 posts)Thanks for posting!!!
OS
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lapucelle
(18,275 posts)Its never come up for a vote. Nor did BS ever vote for the senate version of the bill. No senator ever bothered to write one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Omaha Steve
(99,660 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)The OP is wrong, as is their graphic.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)As far as I can tell they were never voted on.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Just fyi: A group called "Demand for Universal Care" ENDORSED BETO.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I guess we should all know that by now.
Thanks.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Shell_Seas
(3,334 posts)None of this is true.
First of all HR 15 - Raise the Wage Act. Beto was a frickin co-sponsor of this bill. Here is the link to the ACTUAL bill, where you can find his name listed under co-sponsors. https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/15
Secondly, HR 676 only allowed for Medicare reimbursements to non-for-profit organizations and NOT for-profit (e.g. hospitals, private practices). That is why he didn't support it. He said he is considering sponsoring an amendment to the resolution to allow reimbursements to for-profits or creating an entirely new bill.
He has been vocal on his position on Healthcare, which you can see here:
https://egbertowillies.com/2018/02/11/beto-orourke-d-medicare-for-all/
Here we go again. I hope we don't see a repeat of 2016, but it looks like this Summer For Progress group is starting this right out of the gate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...they have no qualms about misrepresenting the facts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Shell_Seas
(3,334 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)So did Planned Parenthood, the Sierra Club, NARAL pro-choice, Alliance for Retired Americans (protection of Social Security & Medicare), and others.
He's got liberal cred, for sure. Although he may not be far left. I don't know.
But he's where he needs to be, for MY key issues. No one is going to be 100%.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Shell_Seas
(3,334 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...And they're not 100% accurate. We all know that many times legislators do not co-sponsor bills even if they actually support the bill.
Do you know how he voted on those two when they came up for a vote and if they passed?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)#fleethebern
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
forklift
(401 posts)Bernie people trying desperately to cut Beto down and failing.
Why don't the Bernie supporters post positive messages about why Bernie is better instead of cutting down the eventual nominee/s and damaging them irreparably?
Do Bernie supporters want Trump to win?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)Sen. Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
forklift
(401 posts)now that they know Bernie will not win the nomination ....to make every Democrat unfavorable so that Trump can win.
I have seen this movie before.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)judges and it won't matter who wins for a generation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)Why would you say that?
New Hampshire has always been an good indicator of the country. From two weeks ago:
https://scholars.unh.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1551&context=survey_center_polls
Sanders LEADS, even against Biden in this poll, which is rare. Even if he comes second to Biden in other polls, I do not know how you can go out on a limb and announce YOU know that THEY know their preferred candidate, that perpetually comes out on top or near the top of every poll, "will not win".
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I have been wondering what happened as I read the almost blind advocacy posts that tear democrats down.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,154 posts)And we can see from the logos across the bottom who is responsible for this non factual garbage.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,734 posts)or any other candidate can beat Trump. We cant afford the narcissism of ideological purity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)HR15 and the other one never came for a vote. This is typical of the lying and smearing we all saw before. Same bad actors. Same old shit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)is on the right side of the first one too right?
LMAO.
What a fail.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
FrankBooth
(1,604 posts)in some configuration will have my vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Beto would be wasted as vice president and Kamala is too easily tagged as California liberal from the top spot. I don't mind Kamala as bulldog #2 but her attack style would not hold up well as nominee. Charisma has to be first against an incumbent
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FrankBooth
(1,604 posts)Frankly I feel both are wasted as VP, both worthy of the top spot, and I personally think Kamala has star power/charisma on the level of Beto. These are two of my favorite candidates in years, so I'm willing to wait and see how the primaries shake out, but we're lucky to have Dems of this caliber competing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Politicub
(12,165 posts)This is taking one thing and calling it something it is not in service of tearing an opponent down.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)That's the stuff of "fake news."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....of those graphics or, at best, delete the OP.
Not a single response since the OP was posted early this morning.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Your post got me to thinking. I didnt realize the OP only posted this and hasnt participated in their own thread.
Whenever someone makes a post in this forum, I have an expectation that they will engage with others on that post. Breaking news is a little different. People dont necessarily need to Engage about a breaking news story if theyre just reporting that it happened.
Clearly, this post was intended to make people question Betos support of a universal system of healthcare. When in reality, he has spoken forcefully in favor of universal healthcare. I believe I read elsewhere, though my memory may not be right, of Beto saying he would use the affordable care act as the platform on which to build. I support that approach. People underestimate how broad and yes, wonderful, Obamacare is. The 10 essential health care benefits it defines make for comprehensive coverage. A public option is the missing link.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)If you were confident about Bernie, you wouldn't need to post misleading and lying threads about the other candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)Why are you posting misinformation?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TexasTowelie
(112,249 posts)it indicates the following:
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As for the graphics:
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,275 posts)It never came up for a vote. Saying somebody voted against a bill that the House never even voted on is out and out untrue.
Why would anybody spread a fake talking point here?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,154 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Maru Kitteh
(28,341 posts)The mother-land demands it. Same playbook, because it worked so very well last time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cattledog
(5,915 posts)Cosponsor Date Cosponsored
Rep. Castro, Joaquin [D-TX-20]* 05/25/2017
Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18]* 05/25/2017
Rep. Green, Al [D-TX-9]* 05/25/2017
Rep. Veasey, Marc A. [D-TX-33]* 05/25/2017
Rep. Green, Gene [D-TX-29]* 05/25/2017
Rep. Johnson, Eddie Bernice [D-TX-30]* 05/25/2017
Rep. Doggett, Lloyd [D-TX-35] 08/25/2017
Rep. O'Rourke, Beto [D-TX-16] 02/15/2018
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
demmiblue
(36,865 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
4now
(1,596 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)Does crap like the OP help us to crush Republicans?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)His platitudes sound wonderful (swoon).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Perfect fodder for when BS supporters complain about any fake or unfair stuff coming their way.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Stellar
(5,644 posts)that those that give them money ask them to vote...including Bernie Sanders. Perhaps that's why B.S. has so many small dollar donors.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Follow the money the saying goes.
It will cut out the facade and reveal the man or woman in reality.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)Why Bernie Sanders is backing a $1.5 trillion military boondoggle
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/12/why-bernie-sanders-is-backing-a-15-trillion-military-boondoggle.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Wonder why Sen Warren is backing away from Medicare for all?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)Can you show me where she is backing away from Medicare for All? You link doesn't back up your claim.
Then again, with an op like this one......
Part of Warren's reply at the link zero provided.
So, lets start with the battle were having right now and talk about the things we need to be doing, because I dont want to lose sight of this. Its good to talk about our overall goal, and heres our overall goal. This is what distinguishes Democrats from Republicans. Democrats believe health care is a basic human right. And we fight for basic human rights. Our obligation is to make sure that everybody gets coverage at the lowest possible cost to all of us. So what does that mean? Right now, it means fighting the Republicans who are trying to sabotage the Affordable Care Act. Weve got this lawsuit going on down in Texas where the Republicans are trying to do what they couldnt do with the vote, and that is trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act, to make it OK to discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions, to cut off access to health care for millions of Americans. So job number one is to defend the affordable care act.
Job number two is to make changes where we need to make them right now. Changes to hold insurance companies accountable when theyre trying to cheat people, when theyre trying to scam people. Changes right now, and whats happening with drugs, prescription drugs. We need to lower the cost of prescription drugs. One in four Americans say they cant take drugs that are prescribed to them because they cant afford to pay for them. I have, for example here, a proposal for generic drugs, which are about 90 percent of prescriptions that people fill, to bring those costs down to just a nominal cost.
And the third, how do we get universal coverage. Medicare for all. Lots of paths for how to do that. But we know where we are aiming. And that is, every American has health care at a price they can afford. And that the overall costs in the system are held as low as possible.
So right now, there are multiple bills on the floor in the United States Senate. Ive signed onto Medicare for All. Ive signed on to another one that gives an option for buying in to Medicaid. There are different ways we can get there. But the key has to be always keep the center of the bullseye in mind. And that is affordable health care for every American.
I see no support for the military boondoggle there. Nice deflection.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)If you dispute the article take it up with the author.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)I dispute your faulty characterization.
I like her answer. I just posted it so it provides more transparency than your comments with just the drop of your link. Just like the op has been thoroughly vetted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)The flyer doesn't say what you said. You made it up and now refuse to admit a mistake. Maybe it's not a mistake.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)Google the Clinton care...that was an attempt to force all on one plan...failed miserably.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Those two graphics in your OP represent those Democrats who co-sponsored the two bills in question, not any subsequent votes.
Thanks!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)SO say it like it is here.
"Are you planning on addressing why you lied in the OP subject line?" is better. After all, we cannot attack Trump on things people do on our own side, like lying, not releasing taxes etc, if we do not also call it out on our side.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mr_liberal
(1,017 posts)businesses to cut hours for workers. I heard that especially about restaurants. So I would consider it a good thing that Beto opposes it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)It just went up to $16
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Voltaire2
(13,061 posts)Im sure you heard that. Now do you have any actual evidence?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassler
(3,379 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)Much better than expected.
Fun fact: Unlike the votes mentioned in the op, did you know Sanders is on record as voting against a pathway to citizenship? Thats not made up. Biden supported it in the same vote. As did a most Democrats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(44,131 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided