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crazytown

(7,277 posts) Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:52 PM Jul 2019

538: 'Biden was Clearly Stronger Tonight'

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'Candidates Punch Up At Biden — And He Remains Standing, For Now'; 'Biden Does His Homework, But Nobody Really Gets Schooled'; 'Biden Fights Back; America Asks For Shorter Debates'; 'Biden, the comeback kid'.

Biden was clearly stronger tonight, although the bar after the June debate was admittedly low. But like last night, it doesn’t feel like there was a clear winner. In terms of the candidates who didn’t have such a good night — Gillibrand needed to do well, but I don’t think she landed her attack on Biden as well as she could have. That could have been a moment for her.

Biden with a very strong debate performance. He got attacked by a lot of people and generally handled it well.

Biden’s final closing pitch wasn’t creative, but it got at the fact that Democrats desperately want to get rid of Trump.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/second-democratic-debate-night-two/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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538: 'Biden was Clearly Stronger Tonight' (Original Post) crazytown Jul 2019 OP

I mean, when you have nowhere to go but up... HerbChestnut Jul 2019 #1

I think for now he is treading lightly and keeping his nose clean. With rump gloves are off. nt UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #2

Yup! A gentleman with the other Dems... NOT when it comes to the dotard Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Aug 2019 #3

Those are the words of the 538 commentators crazytown Aug 2019 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Aug 2019 #5

Say or think what you like, 538 and their commentators are quite reputable. Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #7

The have a decent track record of picking winners. crazytown Aug 2019 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Aug 2019 #9

Yeah. They gave Trump a 1 in 4 chance. Predicted +39 Dem seats 2018. crazytown Aug 2019 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Aug 2019 #11

Well good for you. crazytown Aug 2019 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Aug 2019 #14

You're welcome crazytown Aug 2019 #21

We think you should get a room. (n/t) OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #13

they're there crazytown Aug 2019 #16

"Biden with a very strong debate performance. He got attacked by a lot of people and generally.. Cha Aug 2019 #17

Another example of how certain people benefit from low expectations EffieBlack Aug 2019 #15

#PresidentObamaVP.. and I want him for Cha Aug 2019 #18

And everything is also not what you're trying to make it, Cha EffieBlack Aug 2019 #20

If he's going to be the nominee, then the stronger he gets the better. SaschaHM Aug 2019 #19

It was a great debate.They all did good.We have a lot of great candidates. This beats the 2008 group rockfordfile Aug 2019 #22

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)

1. I mean, when you have nowhere to go but up...

Reply to crazytown (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:55 PM

Jul 2019

Then I guess he could consider tonight an improvement? He was better, sure, but he still wasn't very strong. I'm worried about how he would handle being on a debate stage with Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)

2. I think for now he is treading lightly and keeping his nose clean. With rump gloves are off. nt

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:58 PM

Jul 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)

6. Yup! A gentleman with the other Dems... NOT when it comes to the dotard

Reply to UniteFightBack (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:04 AM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Response to crazytown (Original post)

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)

4. Those are the words of the 538 commentators

Reply to LovingA2andMI (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:02 AM

Aug 2019

who have no skin in the game.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)

7. Say or think what you like, 538 and their commentators are quite reputable.

Reply to LovingA2andMI (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:06 AM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

crazytown

(7,277 posts)

8. The have a decent track record of picking winners.

Reply to LovingA2andMI (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:06 AM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Response to crazytown (Reply #8)

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)

10. Yeah. They gave Trump a 1 in 4 chance. Predicted +39 Dem seats 2018.

Reply to LovingA2andMI (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:14 AM

Aug 2019

which was better than the rest by some distance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)

12. Well good for you.

Reply to LovingA2andMI (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:30 AM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)

21. You're welcome

Reply to LovingA2andMI (Reply #14)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 05:35 AM

Aug 2019

rain is a kiss of heaven

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)

13. We think you should get a room. (n/t)

Reply to LovingA2andMI (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 12:32 AM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

crazytown

(7,277 posts)

16. they're there

Reply to OilemFirchen (Reply #13)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:42 AM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,328 posts)

17. "Biden with a very strong debate performance. He got attacked by a lot of people and generally..

Reply to LovingA2andMI (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:58 AM

Aug 2019

handled it well."

Yeah, keep kicking this will your little smilies.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)

15. Another example of how certain people benefit from low expectations

Reply to crazytown (Original post)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:04 AM

Aug 2019

I doubt anyone would claim that Harris or Warren or Castro staged a “comeback” because they didn’t get their ass kicked this time.

#WhiteMalePrivilege

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,328 posts)

18. #PresidentObamaVP.. and I want him for

Reply to EffieBlack (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 02:00 AM

Aug 2019

POTUS.. I don't care what color he is.

Not everything is about what you're trying to make it, Effie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)

20. And everything is also not what you're trying to make it, Cha

Reply to Cha (Reply #18)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 02:10 AM

Aug 2019

Reread my post.

I know you are very loyal to and defensive of Biden, but if you can’t see that he is benefitting from a lower standard that would not be applied to anyone other than a white man - and that pointing it out is not a knock against him - then you may need to look at this a little more objectively.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)

19. If he's going to be the nominee, then the stronger he gets the better.

Reply to crazytown (Original post)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 02:02 AM

Aug 2019

His 2012 debate performance was magnificent and I'd prefer if he were close to that level by the time he's debating Trump, a man that's going to hit him harder than any of his primary opponents will.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)

22. It was a great debate.They all did good.We have a lot of great candidates. This beats the 2008 group

Reply to crazytown (Original post)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 06:45 AM

Aug 2019

Trump one way or another he's getting his arse handed to him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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