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question everything

(47,517 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:03 PM Aug 2019

Are Democrats Overlooking Their Most Electable Candidate?

In the past six months, Elizabeth Warren, Pete Buttigieg, and Kamala Harris have all surged in the Democratic primary and cemented themselves in the “top tier”—the group of five candidates that includes Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. Voters have seen something in each of them, whether it’s Warren’s plans, Buttigieg’s knack for articulately answering questions, or Harris’s ability to command the debate stage. But if beating Donald Trump is priority number one, Democratic voters should turn their attention to a candidate who hasn’t broken out yet—Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar.

It’s easy to forget, but last fall and winter, Klobuchar was considered a serious contender for the Democratic nomination. Her questioning of Brett Kavanaugh drew widespread praise from Democrats. She placed fourth in one February poll of Iowa caucus goers, ahead of both Warren and Harris. Her candidacy was met with excitement by a host of political commentators from across the anti-Trump spectrum. Now, however, she’s polling at just one or two percent. That’s a shame, because Klobuchar is what Americans used to agree a president should be before the rise of “fake it til you make it” culture—experienced, knowledgeable, and effective. Klobuchar has served in the Senate for over a decade, whereas Warren was first elected in 2012. Harris has less than three years of experience.

Klobuchar hasn’t just been marking time. One study determined that she was the most effective Senator of the 115th Congress. She also ranked first in bills signed into law in the 114th Congress. During her tenure, she has been the primary sponsor of thirty-three bills signed into law, covering a diverse group of issue areas including infrastructure, addiction recovery, and promoting women in entrepreneurship. By contrast, during his much longer career, Bernie Sanders has only been the lead on seven successful bills.

Klobuchar is also prepared to hit the ground running as president. Last week, she released her plan for more than 100 actions in her first 100 days, including steps to fight climate change, improve access to health care, lower prescription drug costs, and address income inequality. Most importantly, in contrast to other candidates, whose “plans” more closely resemble fantasies, Klobuchar’s action items are grounded in reality and can be achieved through executive action or pragmatic legislation. Aside from Joe Biden, no other candidate in the field would be as prepared for the job on day one.

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She has legitimate progressive credentials—she has voted with Bernie Sanders 88 percent of the time—but she hasn’t adopted some of her colleagues’ more extreme positions. She does not advocate for getting rid of private health insurance, which is in step with what most Americans want. Nor does she think we should abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), which also aligns with the majority of voters. It may be easy for Republicans to portray Kamala Harris or Bernie Sanders as socialists who care more about undocumented immigrants than citizens. But they’d have a much tougher time painting Klobuchar with such a broad brush.

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https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/07/30/are-democrats-overlooking-their-most-electable-candidate/

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Are Democrats Overlooking Their Most Electable Candidate? (Original Post) question everything Aug 2019 OP
I really really like her! I sure wish her campaign would gain more traction Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #1
She is an excellent candidate Raven123 Aug 2019 #2
Moderates like Klobuchar simply cannot compete with Joe Biden bluewater Aug 2019 #3
Who says that only one modertate can be on the stage? We have Sanders and Warren question everything Aug 2019 #5
The voters? bluewater Aug 2019 #9
Amy is competing with too many stronger moderates. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #32
Thanks for this. n/t Beartracks Aug 2019 #4
She has to show that she can beat her primary opponents. Blue_true Aug 2019 #6
I like her, but she did not stand out in the debates Merlot Aug 2019 #8
She passed the poll threshold but needs about 20,000 more donations question everything Aug 2019 #11
I will donate to her to help push her over the threshold. nt Blue_true Aug 2019 #12
Thanks question everything Aug 2019 #13
It's frustrating because I think she would destroy Trump DrToast Aug 2019 #7
Authors biases are showing zipplewrath Aug 2019 #10
Truth. JudyM Aug 2019 #17
Ditto! Doitnow Aug 2019 #36
All posters who have a favorite candidate show bias towards that person elocs Aug 2019 #42
thanks pangaia Aug 2019 #14
She is very well qualified. brer cat Aug 2019 #15
No BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #16
Chicken/Egg Sparkly Aug 2019 #30
Perhaps people have been reading how she treats her staff, Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2019 #35
She hasn't recovered from that IMO BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #38
It's too bad MustLoveBeagles Aug 2019 #18
She hasn't proven to me she's the most electable. brooklynite Aug 2019 #19
I like her, but I think people just aren't as excited ecstatic Aug 2019 #20
I like Klobuchar but Biden is more electable Gothmog Aug 2019 #21
I would Prefer Her Over Biden colsohlibgal Aug 2019 #22
I think that she can add to the debate - if moderators will not cut her in mid sentence question everything Aug 2019 #23
News that she treats staff badly damaged her momentum. Before that she had... brush Aug 2019 #24
"Minnesota Nice" is really dflprincess Aug 2019 #28
Whatever Sparkly Aug 2019 #29
Well no wonder it got out that she treats staff badly, or did. Hope she's improved since then. brush Aug 2019 #31
Stories about Amy's treatment of her staff dflprincess Aug 2019 #34
And yet, as you have already read, a letter question everything Aug 2019 #41
Haven't read about it. And it may be true. GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #37
You haven't heard about it? Google it. It's not what you described. brush Aug 2019 #40
Right. And, the complaints were... anonymous question everything Aug 2019 #44
In a general election, I think she would be the most electable of any of the women candidates by far mtnsnake Aug 2019 #25
Lawrence O'Donnell giving high praise for not attacking democrats last night IADEMO2004 Aug 2019 #26
Amy rocks! WA-03 Democrat Aug 2019 #27
The nominee might choose her for running mate IronLionZion Aug 2019 #33
Excellent pattyloutwo Aug 2019 #39
Could be. Amy Klobuchar is one of my Senators. MineralMan Aug 2019 #43
Regardless, I think that it is important to keep her, and more moderates in public question everything Aug 2019 #45
By the end of 2019, the field needs to be cut down to four candidates, MineralMan Aug 2019 #46
 

Thekaspervote

(32,785 posts)
1. I really really like her! I sure wish her campaign would gain more traction
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:05 PM
Aug 2019
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Raven123

(4,862 posts)
2. She is an excellent candidate
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:13 PM
Aug 2019

George Will wrote positively of her in WaPo a few months ago. Hope she makes the next debate

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
3. Moderates like Klobuchar simply cannot compete with Joe Biden
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:13 PM
Aug 2019

for the "moderate" faction of the Democratic base.

Joe Biden is simply dominating among moderate Democrats leaving little room for anyone else trying to gain a following there.

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question everything

(47,517 posts)
5. Who says that only one modertate can be on the stage? We have Sanders and Warren
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:16 PM
Aug 2019

that are practically indistinguishable
.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
9. The voters?
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:21 PM
Aug 2019

Yes, the progressives are splitting their support between Warren and Sanders (and others). So?

Joe Biden is DOMINATING among the moderates, garnering the lion share of that portion of the party. That's just a fact.

Hey, many progressives would love to see other moderates take support away from Biden, but it is just not happening.



As it stands now, Klobuchar has a good shot at making the September debate, but her campaign is just not catching on, Biden has taken all the oxygen out of the room for other moderates.

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thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
32. Amy is competing with too many stronger moderates.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:39 PM
Aug 2019

Of course there can be more than one. The problem isn't that she's competing with a stronger moderate in Biden, it's that she's competing with stronger moderates in Biden, Harris, Buttigieg, O'Rourke, and maybe others. She does not have a commanding presence. Maybe it's a Minnesota thing, but she's about as exciting as a Mondale. As I said elsewhere, the moderate "lane" is too crowded, and she's driving a sub-compact.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
6. She has to show that she can beat her primary opponents.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:18 PM
Aug 2019

She has not done that yet.

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Merlot

(9,696 posts)
8. I like her, but she did not stand out in the debates
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:21 PM
Aug 2019

Hopefully she makes it to the next round, I'd like to see more from her.

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Undecided
 

question everything

(47,517 posts)
11. She passed the poll threshold but needs about 20,000 more donations
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:28 PM
Aug 2019

I hope that many here, even thought she is not their first choice, will send her $5 or $10 for her to qualify (and then unsubscribe from the emails..)

https://amyklobuchar.com/

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
12. I will donate to her to help push her over the threshold. nt
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:30 PM
Aug 2019
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DrToast

(6,414 posts)
7. It's frustrating because I think she would destroy Trump
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:21 PM
Aug 2019

I also think she’d be a great President, but she doesn’t seem to be gaining any traction.

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zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
10. Authors biases are showing
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:27 PM
Aug 2019
"...but she hasn’t adopted some of her colleagues’ more extreme positions."


Declaring something "extreme" instead of just "different" kinda shows the biases of the author. Extreme is used to discredit something without having to actually argue the point.
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JudyM

(29,262 posts)
17. Truth.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:55 PM
Aug 2019

$15 an hour was “extreme” last time around, and that’s just for starters.
So easy to be cavalierly dismissive of s bold vision by obliquely claiming it’s not grounded in reality... sadly, there’s a lot of that going around.

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elocs

(22,594 posts)
42. All posters who have a favorite candidate show bias towards that person
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:01 PM
Aug 2019

in their comments.
That's why I tend to give more credence to those who are undecided because they have no dog in the fight yet. And I love credence.

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brer cat

(24,589 posts)
15. She is very well qualified.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:50 PM
Aug 2019

I have been surprised that she hasn't moved up in the polls. I think she would be a great president.

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BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
16. No
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:54 PM
Aug 2019

She’s not being overlooked. She’s just not catching on.

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Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
35. Perhaps people have been reading how she treats her staff,
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:48 PM
Aug 2019

and throws tantrums (and objects) in the office when she doesn't get her way.

Sound like anyone else we already know ?

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BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
38. She hasn't recovered from that IMO
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:02 PM
Aug 2019

Two dozen staffers ripping her treatment of them to the NYT.

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MustLoveBeagles

(11,628 posts)
18. It's too bad
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:58 PM
Aug 2019

I like her a lot and think she'd make a fine president. With so many good candidates I think she gets lost in the shuffle.

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brooklynite

(94,672 posts)
19. She hasn't proven to me she's the most electable.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:59 PM
Aug 2019
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ecstatic

(32,723 posts)
20. I like her, but I think people just aren't as excited
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:27 PM
Aug 2019

about AK. We have this thing where we need to feel excited. Silly, I know.

That being said, if she were magically thrust into the nominee position with no more distractions from other candidates, I'm sure everyone would be excited and fully on board.

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Gothmog

(145,475 posts)
21. I like Klobuchar but Biden is more electable
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:27 PM
Aug 2019
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colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
22. I would Prefer Her Over Biden
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:42 PM
Aug 2019

But only because of Biden’s age. I think his age is a risk.

I will vote for whoever gets nominated but my personal preference is one of the more progressive candidates like Warren or if she had a legit chance Marianne Williamson, who finished strong in that debate. She was right on in describing the monstrous threat of Trump and his racist behavior.

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question everything

(47,517 posts)
23. I think that she can add to the debate - if moderators will not cut her in mid sentence
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:46 PM
Aug 2019

even if she is not the nominee.

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brush

(53,815 posts)
24. News that she treats staff badly damaged her momentum. Before that she had...
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 09:59 PM
Aug 2019

that "Minnesota Nice" appeal.

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dflprincess

(28,081 posts)
28. "Minnesota Nice" is really
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:26 PM
Aug 2019

"Minnesota Passive Aggressive". You can see this in Amy whenever she responds to an email. She & her staff have raised the non-response response to an art form. (She also has some of the rudest staff members, even if you're call to complement her on something.)

Also note, she is not popular with the progressives in her own state party. The "powers that be" love her, the rank and file activists, who do tilt more to the left, have not been impressed.

But if you want centrist & status quo, Amy's your candidate.




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Sparkly

(24,149 posts)
29. Whatever
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:27 PM
Aug 2019

that means.

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brush

(53,815 posts)
31. Well no wonder it got out that she treats staff badly, or did. Hope she's improved since then.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:36 PM
Aug 2019
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dflprincess

(28,081 posts)
34. Stories about Amy's treatment of her staff
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:44 PM
Aug 2019

go back to when she was the Hennepin County Attorney.

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question everything

(47,517 posts)
41. And yet, as you have already read, a letter
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 09:49 AM
Aug 2019

Good governance with a capital G

My experience working with U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar causes me to take issue with Patrick Condon’s recent column (“?‘I get things done,’ says Klobuchar,” July 30). The senator has always seemed to me to be an able, committed, effective public servant.

I spent 12 years on the Edina City Council, during which the council traveled yearly to Washington, D.C., to participate in an idea-generating conference with other city leaders. Each year we scheduled meetings with our representatives. Former U.S. Rep. Erik Paulsen met personally with us only once, assigning an underling all other times. Klobuchar never did that! She personally attended every meeting and listened to our issues regarding airport noise and other city issues. Klobuchar asked questions, never rushed us out and authored and supported changes that responded to our residents’ concerns.

That is good governance with a capitol G. She is not using “a pile of bills” in order to “sell herself to voters”! The senator’s bills are issues her constituents want addressed. In this time of split government and a Senate majority leader who will not even allow a vote on bills protecting our election process, let’s recognize Klobuchar for the smart, effective leader that she has been and will continue to be.

Ann Swenson, Edina

http://www.startribune.com/readers-write-minn-republicans-and-election-security-importing-canadian-drugs-debate-access-new-driving-laws/513517062/

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GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
37. Haven't read about it. And it may be true.
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:57 PM
Aug 2019

But when I read about women that are considered tough to work for I automatically put it in my 33 year corporate perspective.

A women who is demanding is called a bitch and mean. A man...strong and confident.

Not saying that is the case here. Honestly don’t know. But whenever I hear a women is hard on her employees red lights go off.

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brush

(53,815 posts)
40. You haven't heard about it? Google it. It's not what you described.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:29 AM
Aug 2019
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question everything

(47,517 posts)
44. Right. And, the complaints were... anonymous
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:47 PM
Aug 2019
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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
25. In a general election, I think she would be the most electable of any of the women candidates by far
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:07 PM
Aug 2019

and become a fine president who knows how to get things done. Only problem for Amy is that she'll have a tougher time winning her own primary than she would winning the general election. She just doesn't have the big machine behind her, unfortunately.

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IADEMO2004

(5,556 posts)
26. Lawrence O'Donnell giving high praise for not attacking democrats last night
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:18 PM
Aug 2019
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WA-03 Democrat

(3,053 posts)
27. Amy rocks!
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:22 PM
Aug 2019

I think she is a great senator and candidate!

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IronLionZion

(45,491 posts)
33. The nominee might choose her for running mate
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:41 PM
Aug 2019

an effective midwestern Senator would make a great VP.

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pattyloutwo

(279 posts)
39. Excellent
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:07 AM
Aug 2019

Thanks for posting. I really like Warren, but I also really like Klobuchar, and think she is more electable. I think she’s a far stronger candidate than Biden. Maybe she’ll gain some traction now!

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MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
43. Could be. Amy Klobuchar is one of my Senators.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:45 PM
Aug 2019

I like her a lot. However, she faces a real problem with name recognition as one of the crowd of primary candidates, and it doesn't look like she's going to be able to make the jump to become a real contender. She's down in the pack of people who are just hanging on and not rising in poll results.

She might possibly be a contender for VP, if Biden gets the nomination. Her positions align pretty well with his, and she has better recognition in the Midwest than nationally. We'll see.

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question everything

(47,517 posts)
45. Regardless, I think that it is important to keep her, and more moderates in public
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 12:50 PM
Aug 2019

I remember even in 2016 I lamented that it was a two-person race from the beginning with one of them not even a Democrat. I think that it is important for the party, for the nation, to see the many faces of Democrats beyond the news generating.

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MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
46. By the end of 2019, the field needs to be cut down to four candidates,
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 01:44 PM
Aug 2019

in my opinion.

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