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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Gothmog

(145,475 posts)
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:41 PM Aug 2019

Joe Biden Is Rolling As No One Gains Ground After Second Debate

Joe is doing well https://www.politicususa.com/2019/08/02/joe-biden-is-rolling-as-no-one-gains-ground-after-second-debate.html

A looming problem for candidates is the new delegation allocation rules require that only candidates getting 15% of the vote or more in each primary and caucus are awarded delegates. This means that every candidate outside Biden who isn’t at less than 15% in any early state is flirting with not picking up delegates.

There is a sizable segment of Democrats who like and want Joe Biden as the party’s nominee. The possibility is growing that Biden catches fire in the early voting states and rolls to the nomination. The other candidates the nomination may have to beat Biden early or not at all, as these debates aren’t moving the needle and shifting voters away from the former vice president.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Joe Biden Is Rolling As No One Gains Ground After Second Debate (Original Post) Gothmog Aug 2019 OP
A lot of "we'll see how it is after the debates" narratives are being shattered. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #1
Or... "it's early".... LakeArenal Aug 2019 #2
Don't forget "name recognition" BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #14
Lol. cwydro Aug 2019 #66
+1000 Peacetrain Aug 2019 #5
Well, wouldn't it be nice to see all the talk about a brokered convention go away!! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #3
Brokered convention wouldn't really matter madville Aug 2019 #9
For myself, not worried about a brokered convention, but from time to time there's been several Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #13
Yeah, we can classify that as malarkey madville Aug 2019 #15
+1000 Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #22
Totally agree. LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #30
Thanks, Goth! Cha Aug 2019 #4
Joe Biden Is the Big Winner of the Democrats' Leftward Shift Gothmog Aug 2019 #6
+1000 LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #7
Calling any of our current set of candidates "extreme" is a Republican game. DemocracyMouse Aug 2019 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Aug 2019 #26
If the choice is between being Woke and winning, I select winning Gothmog Aug 2019 #28
Yep hurl Aug 2019 #41
Taking away voters private insurance polls very badly Gothmog Aug 2019 #46
I would hope that Biden would review some Medicare for All plan and support it. LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #33
You have Buttigieg as your preferred candidate, but he doesn't support Medicare For All. He's highplainsdem Aug 2019 #40
Banning private insurance polls very badly Gothmog Aug 2019 #45
Biden's not the only one. Just sayin'.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #60
Not if he wants to win . Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #61
Fighting over the details of their healthcare proposals won't help them beat Donald Trump i Gothmog Aug 2019 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Aug 2019 #73
K&R! Great read! Thanks for posting this! highplainsdem Aug 2019 #8
"Biden also leads when voters are asked to name the top three candidates Hortensis Aug 2019 #10
Thank you for highlighting that, Cha Aug 2019 #53
It's huge after all, as was displayed by the Blue Tsunami. Hortensis Aug 2019 #71
Name recognition and charisma rules until we get close to Iowa. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #11
Humm.."lacking enthusiastic support" Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #16
There's an enthusiasm gap with Biden. Surveys have made that clear. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #20
You are certainly entitled to your opinion Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #27
I am very enthusiastic. I favor a vision for a better, more unified America over bold and emmaverybo Aug 2019 #34
You must be one of the few lucky ones who are economically solvent DemocracyMouse Aug 2019 #49
What does that even been? redstateblues Aug 2019 #79
I think it's less an enthusiasm gap than a novelty gap. Supporters of the lesser known candidates highplainsdem Aug 2019 #43
No. There's not an "enthusiastic gap" Cha Aug 2019 #51
Is Hillary Prez? Cartoonist Aug 2019 #55
I'm not in the mood for Cha Aug 2019 #57
Big time... why Joe is not going to get the nomination. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #59
Biden is... techne7319 Aug 2019 #29
I like safety. Whatever one thinks of Gabbard, her warning about how close we are to a 30 minute emmaverybo Aug 2019 #35
Of course... techne7319 Aug 2019 #39
They do not have foreign policy and relations experience. But those of us who do feel Biden is in emmaverybo Aug 2019 #42
Biden IS a moderate. And so am I calguy Aug 2019 #36
I am also a moderate Gothmog Aug 2019 #62
yeah, yeah.. ".. quite boring.. " Not to me! Cha Aug 2019 #52
I would not mind some boring right now Gothmog Aug 2019 #63
But, that's just it, Cha Aug 2019 #64
"And yes, DU is far from representative of the average voting dem" elocs Aug 2019 #32
Do these polls include Republicans who hate tRump? Pathwalker Aug 2019 #12
Very encouraging info - thanks! Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #24
These polls don't, since they're primary polls of Dems and independents leaning Democratic, not of highplainsdem Aug 2019 #44
Thanks for the anecdotes from MI, Cha Aug 2019 #54
I have a Republican friend who's supporting Biden MustLoveBeagles Aug 2019 #75
Feel the Jooooooooooementum!!! oasis Aug 2019 #17
Biden represents TRUST.... FarPoint Aug 2019 #18
And NORMALCY onetexan Aug 2019 #31
And experience on day one! FloridaBlues Aug 2019 #38
and instant restoration of relations with America's allies onetexan Aug 2019 #47
good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #19
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2019 #21
Dems have an amazing line-up of smart candidates with terrific, progressive ideas ... Auggie Aug 2019 #25
Good! ananda Aug 2019 #37
Let's do this! K&R BootinUp Aug 2019 #48
One thing I look for a couple days after a debate customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #50
Sanders did JI7 Aug 2019 #65
Missed it customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #67
they said he raised a million dollars JI7 Aug 2019 #68
Compared to some of the post-debate hauls customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #69
Solidly in first place with a comfortably large margin. democratisphere Aug 2019 #56
Biden's Position in a Crowded Field Is Playing Out as I Suspected Indykatie Aug 2019 #58
I wouldn't bet the farm on B- rated Morning Consult polls crazytown Aug 2019 #70
KR! Cha Aug 2019 #74
Kick for Biden! Cha Aug 2019 #76
Just gotta say this to Joe. Jakes Progress Aug 2019 #77
Joe will get us there. oasis Aug 2019 #78
 

BannonsLiver

(16,429 posts)
1. A lot of "we'll see how it is after the debates" narratives are being shattered.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:44 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LakeArenal

(28,834 posts)
2. Or... "it's early"....
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:50 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BannonsLiver

(16,429 posts)
14. Don't forget "name recognition"
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:25 PM
Aug 2019

I give that one 2 more months before it expires and I begin pointing and laughing at those who bring it up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Thekaspervote

(32,785 posts)
3. Well, wouldn't it be nice to see all the talk about a brokered convention go away!!
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:50 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

madville

(7,412 posts)
9. Brokered convention wouldn't really matter
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:04 PM
Aug 2019

The superdelegates are gonna go with Joe because winning is the #1 priority. At this point Warren and Harris would be coun flips against Trump and Bernie isn't much higher than that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,785 posts)
13. For myself, not worried about a brokered convention, but from time to time there's been several
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:22 PM
Aug 2019

Posts about how it’s going to be a brokered convention, And how much power senator sanders will be wielding.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

madville

(7,412 posts)
15. Yeah, we can classify that as malarkey
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:28 PM
Aug 2019

Sanders has no path to the nomination, especially with Warren in the race. Superdelegates would never push Bernie over the threshold.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,475 posts)
6. Joe Biden Is the Big Winner of the Democrats' Leftward Shift
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:57 PM
Aug 2019

Harris, sanders and Warren can go after the extreme left of the party but Biden will be the nominee if he wins the middle of the party which comprises the bulk of the party




In the 2016 race, voters who identified as “very liberal” were the only ideological group in which Sanders ran evenly with Hillary Clinton. But they represented only about one-fourth of all primary voters, according to a cumulative analysis of 2016 exit polls by CNN. Voters who identified as “somewhat liberal” (just over one-third) or “moderate and conservative” (about two-fifths) cast a larger share of the vote. Likewise, voters over age 45 cast fully 60 percent of all primary votes in 2016, compared with about one-sixth for voters under 30.

On paper, Biden could face competition for moderate and older voters from the other centrists in the field. But none of them have yet consolidated much support. And while some of the moderate candidates performed well over the two nights—particularly Senator Michael Bennet of Colorado and Montana Governor Steve Bullock—none of them had a breakout moment likely to dramatically improve their position. Meanwhile, several of the relative moderates, including Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and former Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper, delivered low-wattage performances that may further hurt their standing in the polls.....

A recent NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College poll underscores the challenge Democrats may face selling many of those ideas. In that survey, 54 percent of Americans opposed eliminating private insurance; 62 percent opposed covering the undocumented in any national health-care system; and 66 percent opposed decriminalizing unauthorized border crossings.

Even among Democrats who identified as moderate or conservative, nearly half opposed covering the undocumented, and a clear majority opposed decriminalizing border crossings, according to detailed results provided to The Atlantic by Marist. A solid majority of those more moderate Democrats also rejected ending the death penalty, which every major Democratic contender has now embraced. In the survey, a national health-care system that eliminates private insurance did register support from a clear majority of both liberal Democrats and moderates. But, for Democrats primarily concerned about electability, the overall public’s opposition to that idea may still make them hesitant about supporting a candidate who advocates for it.
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LincolnRossiter

(560 posts)
7. +1000
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:58 PM
Aug 2019

Lot of good press for our man today. CNN must be seething.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
23. Calling any of our current set of candidates "extreme" is a Republican game.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:58 PM
Aug 2019

Please stop.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to DemocracyMouse (Reply #23)

 

Gothmog

(145,475 posts)
28. If the choice is between being Woke and winning, I select winning
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:12 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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hurl

(938 posts)
41. Yep
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 08:06 PM
Aug 2019

Chipping away at unity

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,475 posts)
46. Taking away voters private insurance polls very badly
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 08:47 PM
Aug 2019

This issue would kill sanders or Warren in they are the nominee


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LiberalFighter

(51,017 posts)
33. I would hope that Biden would review some Medicare for All plan and support it.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:21 PM
Aug 2019

I'm surprised that he lacks information about it. If he could support it and clearly explain the benefit of it he could benefit from it immensely in my opinion.

So he needs to do the research, study it, and break it down for the public in easy to understand language.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,475 posts)
45. Banning private insurance polls very badly
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 08:42 PM
Aug 2019

Taking away private insurance will kill the nominee in the general election.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tarheel_Dem

(31,236 posts)
60. Biden's not the only one. Just sayin'....
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 11:58 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
61. Not if he wants to win .
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 12:10 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Gothmog

(145,475 posts)
72. Fighting over the details of their healthcare proposals won't help them beat Donald Trump i
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 11:57 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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highplainsdem

(49,020 posts)
8. K&R! Great read! Thanks for posting this!
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 05:59 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. "Biden also leads when voters are asked to name the top three candidates
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:12 PM
Aug 2019
that best share their values, with 46 percent saying Biden..."


The Hill on the Harvard CAPS/Harris poll
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(297,465 posts)
53. Thank you for highlighting that,
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 10:37 PM
Aug 2019

Hortensis!

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
71. It's huge after all, as was displayed by the Blue Tsunami.
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:51 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
11. Name recognition and charisma rules until we get close to Iowa.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:15 PM
Aug 2019

The dominant narrative is like a self-fulfilling prophecy, and most people aren't paying attention at this point. So, name recognition is king. Those who are polling relatively well but lack name recognition have benefited from their charisma, which results in more press, which boosts name recognition. DU is not reflective of the overall population. Not even remotely. Most people are not political junkies and couldn't name 3 candidates.

All we really know right now is which candidates don't stand a chance (i.e., all of those who won't be on stage in September).

Biden is certainly the favorite, though lacking in enthusiastic support, but all it would take to change the narrative is for him to lose either Iowa or New Hampshire. Then he's vulnerable in South Carolina and the Super Tuesday states. We're still 6 months away from voting. That's an eternity in politics.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Thekaspervote

(32,785 posts)
16. Humm.."lacking enthusiastic support"
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:31 PM
Aug 2019

Seems 47% of Dems polled just today support Biden.. I’d call that enthusiastic

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287225718

And yes, DU is far from representative of the average voting dem

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
20. There's an enthusiasm gap with Biden. Surveys have made that clear.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:37 PM
Aug 2019

Again, name recognition is king. We're in the winnowing phase now through the end of the year. As we approach Iowa, shit will get real.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Thekaspervote

(32,785 posts)
27. You are certainly entitled to your opinion
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:11 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
34. I am very enthusiastic. I favor a vision for a better, more unified America over bold and
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:32 PM
Aug 2019

new ideas. No other candidate has framed the fight as “a struggle for the soul of America.” This
old-fashioned idea grabs me, not ideology.

Biden’s accomplishments, life story, qualifications and experience, his empathy and his past service to our country inspire me. That he has more to do inspires me. And despite not needing the utter rubbish that has been thrown at him at this stage of his journey, he persists because he knows he can lift us up out of this terrible place and do the tiresome work needed to mop up after Trump.

I’ll take Joe’s gravitas over razzle-dazzle debate theatrics any day.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
49. You must be one of the few lucky ones who are economically solvent
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 10:12 PM
Aug 2019

Those of us in the majority are doing worse than our parent's generation and we are HUNGRY for both unity AND a fair shake. The pendulum has already swung away from Clintonian "Republican lite."

If you want the assurance of an aw shucks, good ol' fashioned unified America, reach back to FDR and the CENTRIST New Deal.

Now THAT makes me want to vote. (And rebuild the infrastructure GREEN so we actually have a future).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
79. What does that even been?
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:58 AM
Aug 2019

Specifics please

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highplainsdem

(49,020 posts)
43. I think it's less an enthusiasm gap than a novelty gap. Supporters of the lesser known candidates
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 08:14 PM
Aug 2019

have sort of fallen in love with them recently.

With Joe, we've known him for decades.

I think that's a factor in the media coverage, too. We've seen the media develop media crushes on one lesser-known candidate after another, then start to lose interest and switch to the next flavor of the month, or the quarter. It's much easier for them to find something new to write about with newer candidates.

I also believe that Joe maintaining his front-runner status for so long works against his supporters feeling the same sense of NEEDING to be an enthusiastic supporter that the people supporting candidates trailing him in the polls are feeling.

You have to be REALLY enthusiastic about a candidate polling in single digits to continue supporting him or her.



If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(297,465 posts)
51. No. There's not an "enthusiastic gap"
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 10:22 PM
Aug 2019

with Biden. They tried to pull that shite with Hillary, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Cartoonist

(7,320 posts)
55. Is Hillary Prez?
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 10:46 PM
Aug 2019

I must have missed that. I had no enthusiasm for Hillary. I voted for her. I have absolutely no enthusiasm for Joe and wish he and Bernie would drop out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,465 posts)
57. I'm not in the mood for
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 10:53 PM
Aug 2019

ridiculous questions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
59. Big time... why Joe is not going to get the nomination.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 11:52 PM
Aug 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

techne7319

(173 posts)
29. Biden is...
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:14 PM
Aug 2019

Biden is the most recognizable face and name in the field of candidates. That’s why he’s getting 47% of support. He’s also a moderate. I wouldn’t equate level of current support with “enthusiasm.” He May be a safer bet than some other candidates, but he seems quite boring frankly. How can someone with very little enthusiasm be expected or credited for enthusing others? We’ll see how he does when the real campaigning begins.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
35. I like safety. Whatever one thinks of Gabbard, her warning about how close we are to a 30 minute
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:39 PM
Aug 2019

warning of a missile incoming should be listened to. Any day, a nuclear conflict in some part of the world can start us on a path to destruction, even before climate change catastrophe. Biden is the
only candidate with sufficient knowledge, experience, and stature on the world stage to help us and our allies navigate these dangerous waters.

So yeah, he’s the candidate to keep us safer and if that means he’s the safe candidate I am all for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

techne7319

(173 posts)
39. Of course...
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:58 PM
Aug 2019

“Biden is the only candidate.” That’s all I hear from Biden supporters. I’m sick of it. Biden supporters refuse to entertain the idea that there are a number of candidates who have common sense, experience, and would do well as president. They act as if the nomination process is over...Joe’s won, everybody else pack up your shit and go home. I’m just sick of the Biden attitude.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
42. They do not have foreign policy and relations experience. But those of us who do feel Biden is in
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 08:13 PM
Aug 2019

a class of his own where qualifications for the job count also recognize that he may not win the primaries. Notice that despite this, none of us continuously post hit pieces on the other candidates.

And many of us have a second choice. In the end, it is up to many more voters than our small group here.

Given constantly changing circumstances, no one can make the case that Biden’s perceived electability will last.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

calguy

(5,324 posts)
36. Biden IS a moderate. And so am I
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:41 PM
Aug 2019

And so are a majority of Democrats. It's true he might seem a bit boring to some, and that's one more thing I like about him. We don't need another showboat in the White House, we need a common sense guy who will use his massive experience to get on the job of restoring this country's credibility and moral compass.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,475 posts)
62. I am also a moderate
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 12:30 AM
Aug 2019

We are indeed the majority of the party

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,465 posts)
52. yeah, yeah.. ".. quite boring.. " Not to me!
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 10:24 PM
Aug 2019

Democracy is very exciting and I see Joe Biden Winning so we can get rid of the full blown fascism in the wh.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,475 posts)
63. I would not mind some boring right now
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 12:31 AM
Aug 2019

I want to restore and rebuild our government

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,465 posts)
64. But, that's just it,
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 12:37 AM
Aug 2019

Goth.. I don't think that it would "boring".. not after almost Losing our Country to Fascism.

It will be the most exciting thing in the world.. And, I think Joe Biden can do that.

Ergo.. Joe Biden's candidacy is very exciting to me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

elocs

(22,594 posts)
32. "And yes, DU is far from representative of the average voting dem"
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:18 PM
Aug 2019

Absolutely true. DU is more liberal than the average Democratic voter and is in it's own alternate universe where wishing makes it so and reality is flexible.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
12. Do these polls include Republicans who hate tRump?
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:19 PM
Aug 2019

My husband has friends who are Joe Biden fans who plan on voting for him in the Mi. primary. One even begged us to support him, and was very happy when we assured him that we do. Several people have asked him questions about Joe, as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
24. Very encouraging info - thanks!
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:01 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,020 posts)
44. These polls don't, since they're primary polls of Dems and independents leaning Democratic, not of
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 08:22 PM
Aug 2019

registered Republicans.

But I saw a tweet just today from someone in Orange County CA about her friends' parents who are lifelong Republicans but who can't stand Trump saying they hope Biden is the Democratic nominee so they can vote for him.

And in the general election polls that do include Republicans as well as Dems and independents, Biden usually beats Trump, and usually by more than other Dems beat him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,465 posts)
54. Thanks for the anecdotes from MI,
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 10:40 PM
Aug 2019

Pathwalker!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MustLoveBeagles

(11,628 posts)
75. I have a Republican friend who's supporting Biden
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:55 AM
Aug 2019

She's even considering changing her party affiliation to vote in our state primary. She's thoroughly disgusted with her party and didn't vote for the maggot in 16. There may be more of these people than we realize.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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oasis

(49,395 posts)
17. Feel the Jooooooooooementum!!!
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:31 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FarPoint

(12,424 posts)
18. Biden represents TRUST....
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:32 PM
Aug 2019

We are familiar with his partnership with President Obama....the true mission of the 2020 Election is to overwhelmingly, get tRump out of the White House......That said....American Democrats are suffering from PTSD from tRump....so, he is the safe figure we gravitate towards...

This current selection of Candidates are essentially auditioning for VP.



If I were to vote in a presidential
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FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
38. And experience on day one!
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:53 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,053 posts)
47. and instant restoration of relations with America's allies
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 09:19 PM
Aug 2019

given Biden's extensive foreign policy experience

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Auggie

(31,177 posts)
25. Dems have an amazing line-up of smart candidates with terrific, progressive ideas ...
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:02 PM
Aug 2019

yet it always comes back to authenticity, approachability, comfort level, and a certain degree of celebrity.

Outside of my progressive bubble (coastal California) I see him connecting with a lot of mid-west independents, non-voters, and even those Republicans pissed at Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ananda

(28,873 posts)
37. Good!
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 07:52 PM
Aug 2019

He's the only one ahead of MF45 in Texas !!!

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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
50. One thing I look for a couple days after a debate
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 10:20 PM
Aug 2019

is an announcement by a candidate that they raised X number of dollars in the 24 hours after the debate. So far, I'm not aware of any such announcement.

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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
67. Missed it
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 12:53 AM
Aug 2019

What did he say that he raised, and how does that compare with what happened after the first debate?

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JI7

(89,260 posts)
68. they said he raised a million dollars
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 12:54 AM
Aug 2019
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Undecided
 

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
69. Compared to some of the post-debate hauls
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 12:59 AM
Aug 2019

that seems a bit underwhelming.

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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
56. Solidly in first place with a comfortably large margin.
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 10:49 PM
Aug 2019

Joe Biden 2020.

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Indykatie

(3,697 posts)
58. Biden's Position in a Crowded Field Is Playing Out as I Suspected
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 11:13 PM
Aug 2019

Warren and Sanders seem to be fighting for the Bernie coalition from 2016 this time around which has them both polling less than 20% consistently. Combined they are still usually Below Biden's polling. I think the 15% rule will be a real problem for most candidates in the early states allowing Biden to get a nice delegate cushion.

A note about the 15% threshold that most articles miss. A candidate will still be allocated some delegates if they reach the 15% threshold in a Congressional District even though they don't reach 15% in the State.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
70. I wouldn't bet the farm on B- rated Morning Consult polls
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 02:50 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,465 posts)
76. Kick for Biden!
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:22 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
77. Just gotta say this to Joe.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:31 AM
Aug 2019

If you get the nomination and then blow it, the death of democracy is on you.

I'm campaigning for, and donating to, working for, and voting for the Democratic candidate.

But if you can't cut it. If you stumble and fail to defeat trump, it will be on you, because you should know whether you can hold it together or not. You didn't inspire me in the debates. You've got to have it more together. If you think Kamala was bad, you better gear up for the trump attacks. You'll have all the media after you. I'll be there rooting for you, but don't think you can just phone it in with a few folksy zingers and "whatever"s.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

oasis

(49,395 posts)
78. Joe will get us there.
Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:48 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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